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Old 04-08-2018, 01:46 PM
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I only got old examples since I don't raid much on P99 anymore, because the rules at their current state allow edge to people who are willing to cheat and break the rules so I rather play on server without any raiding rules.

But there was this CT some time ago when you could still kite trash outside of leashing range while killing CT and after CSG engaged CT and had kite under control AM members used bladestoppers and mallets etc. to overagro mobs from CSGs kite to bring them close enough to CT to get CSG raid trained. AM didn't eat punishment for it, eventho server staff agreed that you had wronged, but this rule change went in instead: "Removed: All bits dictating what a concession must be, and all bits stating that they must be accepted.". Because at that time it was common strategy that A/A did some very shady shit to get "wins" and when you got caught you only lost 1 mobs loots, since concessions must have been accepted if it was offered.

Then there was one time in ST when MOTG and Prog were up and AM pulled MOTG first kiting trash around in the big room and you kept the kite going eventho you didn't have to anymore (I understand that you were just prepping to pull Prog next), then CSG went ahead and pulled Prog and the moment our puller entered big room your guys dropped their kite on top of our puller to get him killed and making us fail the pull. Our pullers werent frapsing, so there was no proof what had happened.

And this is just couple examples, I think I can manage to remember few more if you want.
Raato The reason I specifically asked you if you wanted us to concede the loot that day was because we had spoken with the GMs about your constant false accusations and they were ready to suspended you for crying wolf. So I was just waiting for you to say the magic words. Lucky for your guild that you didn't.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:47 PM
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When Breaken was being forced to take a quieter role against Eratani, he sat down and wrote two letters.

He told Eratani; "When you get into some trouble that you can't get out of, read the first letter and you'll be safe. If you get yourself into a second situation, read the second letter"

Not too long Eratani's role picked up, AW spent the first month of 2017 suspended from raiding. Eratani sat down and opened the first letter. It read, "Blame everything on me."

Eratani blamed it all on ole Breaken and It worked like a charm.

Shortly into 2018, Eratani got his guild suspended for 70/77 days, so he opened the second letter. It read...

"Sit down. Write two letters".

Ref:
  1. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=261775
  2. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=263081
  3. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=264102

Ref:
  1. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=292341
  2. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=295224
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:50 PM
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In regards to the ST incident. It's kinda like fear, if you pull CT you can't expect another guild to continue kiting for you (back when the kite was leashed).

You guys FTEd Prog as far as I remember, and we thus halted our pull (including the kite).
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:55 PM
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That is not how it works no. If you don't know what you are doing and kill a raid force while crawling you get told to leave the zone for a bit. Guilds that know what they are going are still going to kill the content relatively fast.
And where is th fairness in that. A bigger guild comes in and says fuck you to the smaller crawling guild. They can’t. If they pull through them and kill them then ban. They petiton th guild they get told by staff to suck it up.

This goes back to Chardok AE days as well as the mentality. If people crawl they shut tov down. And nobody is willing to or does because it takes a ridiculous amount of time. Even for a good guild.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:01 PM
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When Breaken was being forced to take a quieter role against Eratani, he sat down and wrote two letters.

He told Eratani; "When you get into some trouble that you can't get out of, read the first letter and you'll be safe. If you get yourself into a second situation, read the second letter"

Not too long Eratani's role picked up, AW spent the first month of 2017 suspended from raiding. Eratani sat down and opened the first letter. It read, "Blame everything on me."

Eratani blamed it all on ole Breaken and It worked like a charm.

Shortly into 2018, Eratani got his guild suspended for 70/77 days, so he opened the second letter. It read...

"Sit down. Write two letters".

Ref:
  1. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=261775
  2. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=263081
  3. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=264102

Ref:
  1. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=292341
  2. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=295224
10 Raid Suspensions in the last 21 months.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...archid=8849880

The amount of days totals to 160 once they serve this current one. Once this is served they will have been suspended 160 of roughly 678 days.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:02 PM
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And where is th fairness in that. A bigger guild comes in and says fuck you to the smaller crawling guild. They can’t. If they pull through them and kill them then ban. They petiton th guild they get told by staff to suck it up.

This goes back to Chardok AE days as well as the mentality. If people crawl they shut tov down. And nobody is willing to or does because it takes a ridiculous amount of time. Even for a good guild.
You are misunderstanding what was said.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:03 PM
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:16 PM
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:25 PM
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Ahh P99.

Really though, you've all beaten P99. Try Coirnav or Agnarr or Phinigel or Ragefire. Or maybe a non-EQ game?

No point to continue beating your head against the wall for a 2-loot Vulak to be killed at the entrance with no real challenge to it.
Oh and mage zerging naggy is much harder?
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:39 PM
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