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Old 04-16-2011, 11:52 AM
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Haha ^ this is awesome. I have checked back on this post now and then to see how it is progressing and I am glad that you followed up on this.

Who actually though that this guy was going to "Need" this ring? "Oh i need it so I can switch out with my other great ring so I can use its strength benefits to carry my loads of loot"

Anyway, I have been grouping in FM with my alt since release of Kunark. I have not yet been lucky enough to win a roll on a GER, even though I have rolled on 10 or more of them (Unlucky I know...), and every single group I have been in has either stated at the start that it is FFA or when the ring drops they state FFA before rolling or it is just unspoken and someone says roll for ring. I must have been in close to 40 groups lvl 25-35 since Kunark release and not a single one of them has done NBG on the ring.

I agree that NBG is greedy. It is the most greedy way of doing loot. Personally, most of the time, I would defer the loot to someone who actually needed it. Most people who are not complete dick do but we should be given that choice. Unless it is a group of friends/guildies it should be FFA for all droppable and expensive (relative to level) items. The plat value of the item is just as needed by all members of the group.

I think both sides made mistakes but the random system was used and in any confusion the loot should have been differed by the ONLY concrete system in place which was the /random.

On another note; even if NBG was discussed beforehand and an item dropped, anyone should be able to rolled who decides at that point that they want to. Is it a dick move? Yeah. But it is still well within their right to do so.
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Old 04-16-2011, 02:07 PM
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I will never buff him or give him a port until he gives the person he cheated a GER.
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Old 04-16-2011, 02:49 PM
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NBG is such a slippery issue...
It only truly works when all the sides involved actually agree on definition of NEED

I have witnessed first hand situation, when a NBG group willingly awarded a Noctivigant Blade to the only SK in the group, despite the fact that he already had similar of better weapon, and he promptly sold the blade in EC an hour later.

In my book that definitely doesn't qualify as Need.

This why, I have since them become a strong supporter of "everyone rolls" policy, unless some sort of SOLID agreement has been worked out before hand, like:

- we, as group, going to this camp X, where items A, B, and C drop, and we before hand agree, that first drop of item A goes to Cleric, first drop of B goes to Warrior, and first drop of C goes to Necro. Beyond that all drops will be rolled on, until every one in the group gets at least 1 item worth of loot.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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The druid saying "I don't have a ring, lol" is the best part of this entire saga. Everyone just bag all your shit before you join a NBG group from now on.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:32 PM
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dumb druid
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:12 PM
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The druid saying "I don't have a ring, lol" is the best part of this entire saga. Everyone just bag all your shit before you join a NBG group from now on.
Actually I think the druid saying that was valid. You have a warrior who already has decent/good gear and a comparable ring to the GER (just in defferent ways like STR vs. AC or something) and a druid who doesnt even have a ring cause he probably couldn't afford it.

I would say the druid "Needed" the ring more because he didnt even have slots with gear in it. At least more so than the warrior who just needed a spare ring to swap out when he needed a couple extra str
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Old 04-17-2011, 12:57 AM
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Actually I think the druid saying that was valid. You have a warrior who already has decent/good gear and a comparable ring to the GER (just in defferent ways like STR vs. AC or something) and a druid who doesnt even have a ring cause he probably couldn't afford it.

I would say the druid "Needed" the ring more because he didnt even have slots with gear in it. At least more so than the warrior who just needed a spare ring to swap out when he needed a couple extra str
I was using a cutthroat ring (i think) at like level 12 that I got off a vendor for probably 1 plat. It only had 1 ac and 2 dex, but the point is an empty slot is purely someone's choice. You don't have to go to EC and drop 500pp to fill any slot. By the time you're 20, it doesn't matter what class you are — you've camped enough spots to get basic loot (bronze, chain, cloth, crap stat stuff) or you've made at least a couple hundred pp to buy something. I'm not talking you can buy good stuff, but i am saying if you have an empty slot it's because you chose to keep it that way in spite of readily available options.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:16 AM
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There is no way you make it that far in EQ without having multiple opportunities to acquire a ring. I mean, for fuck's sake, what does a +wis ring cost from a jeweler? Like 20 plat?
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:57 AM
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:28 AM
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Haha ^ this is awesome. I have checked back on this post now and then to see how it is progressing and I am glad that you followed up on this.
I admit I haven't actively looked for him but it so happened that he was hunting at the Sarnak fort in LOIO like me and just poped on my tracker so I thought "Let's see..."

Nagash/Petitpas, lazy druid
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