Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by Morlaeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't WOW. There is no insta-win in this game. Unless you're me. HAR HAR

Big Morlaeth is the win.. Gotta admit it.

[Chucck]

I don't get people sometimes. Your playing a game that is based on a game that already existed 11 years ago. The rules were already established, you knew when you signed up that it is trying to recreate as accurately as possible the way it was 11 years ago. IF you don't like the way the server is, don't play this one, or play a different game. Seriously.... its not hard. The rules and way the game was played is the way it was played, that's what you signed up for. This is not a new MMO being developed on the go or progressing. Its a recreation of something that already was the way it was.

[mwatt]

If a guild or group wants to work a camp for X number of consecutive hours or days in order to get their people what they need that is not a problem for me.

But I don't care how anyone tries to spin it. A guild - or any group for that matter - deliberately monopolizing a camp for the purposes of DENYING others the opportunity to gain the loot from that camp is bullshit and goes against the original theme of the game. End of story.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I don't care how anyone tries to spin it. A guild - or any group for that matter - deliberately monopolizing a camp for the purposes of DENYING others the opportunity to gain the loot from that camp is bullshit and goes against the original theme of the game. End of story.

Give this man a soapbox

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by Ravhin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny, I was just today thinking the exact opposite thing. Since the rule is, in fact, first to engage, then they should simply remove the ">50% damage gets the kill" code and make it "whoever is first on the agro list" gets the exp+loot right, no matter who actually kills it.

Not so much incentive to steal other people's pulls anymore (TT hunter/forager nonsense) and FTE rule for raid mobs is automatically enforced, no need for GM intervention.

That's dumb. Could just kite a mob around until the rest of the raid was ready to engage, preventing anyone else from getting a shot.

Originally Posted by Chrushev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I get to the camp, and there is a queue, im taking the camp when its my turn... a person cant come after me and claim the camp no matter who's friend they are..

This is also dumb. If I'm camping something and my friend wants the camp after me, I just group with him for a bit, then take my leave and he gets the camp, since he was technically in the group with the person originally holding the camp.

[Ennoia]

Also, for the record, keeping 'lists' for camps is for tools. If someone I know wants a camp when I'm done, I'll give them a time frame of when I'm planning to take off, and then when they get there, do as I said above for a bit, then leave. With the way this server is ran with raid mobs constantly being in competition the entire concept of handing over a camp to someone you don't know is basically giving ammo to the enemy.

[Bassracerx]

i second the thread starter's solution. this also gets rid of the NEED to lock down mobs. this discurages the guilds to be greedy stuck up assholes and be so clicky they dont allow new members or have to have a stupid aplication process and 2 month waiting list just to join their guild. this change promotes a POSITIVE GAMING ATMOSPHERE

one suggestion is allow whole groups to q together and nobody can join the group later to "cut" in line.

bottom line this is a GAME. this is also a PVE server people are playing to play with other people and be challenged by the environment and NOT the other players.

[Bassracerx]

epics are right around the corner and if this keeps up very few people will have them despite all the work that indiviuduals/guilds put into getting them. one guild will try to lock out other guilds from getting theirs.

[Stibe]

Originally Posted by Chrushev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I get to the camp, and there is a queue, im taking the camp when its my turn... a person cant come after me and claim the camp no matter who's friend they are..

Yes, actually, they can.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A guild - or any group for that matter - deliberately monopolizing a camp for the purposes of DENYING others the opportunity to gain the loot from that camp is bullshit and goes against the original theme of the game. End of story.

Nobody is trying to deny anyone anything chief. There are a lot of people in guilds, and it takes a while to get items for every person. Also, if a mob camp yields a sellable resource, and a group of people see it as worthwhile to exploit that, then they are going to try and keep it locked to enjoy the fruits of a continuous resource..

Not everything is about you bro.

Even if they were trying to deny other groups something, who are you to say that that goes against the original theme of everquest? Why is that the end of the story? Just because you say so?

Chutzpah & hubris imho.