Ruining EQ

[Mead]

A/A raid suspended for 20 days

Casual guilds now fighting with other casual guilds over loot

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[Tenderizer]

Originally Posted by Docx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just can’t believe CSG is filled with pixel lusting neck beards shitting on the little guys. What ever happened to crawling through NToV and including everyone in the raid scene? Seems like greed and entitlement are the true characteristics CSG demands of their raiders and the vision of their leadership! They have positioned themselves as the true bad guys of the server with no end in sight for their tyranny ( for 20 days )! Let’s see if their PR team can spin this in a positive way once they have indulged themselves in all the loots at the end of the suspension.

Come on guys, a/a off the scene and CSG was expecting christmas too. The problem is that pug grabbed people from all over the server, which may not even know the end game raid scene/rules specifics.

Only issue I saw and felt a little pissed about was that csg was destined to take that a/a spot as top dawgs to get the treasure. How much do they expect to get these 18 days and how Silly do they intend to let it get? throwing us a FU toward the end of 1 MAYBE 2 more dragons kinda stinks. The people who show up are good potential prospects for raiding, who may of just logged off for xmas happy as fuck. Yet everyone shits all over the scene. What incentive does anyone have to subject themselves to that? I have seen guilds collide and walk away apprehensively but respectfully.......<--how do you foster that outcome every time.

Da fuk? I have zero ill will to anyone here, sure theres people I may dislike but by god there are dragons out there boys and they need slaying! Brothers in arms on the battlefield of Norrath! what say ye! Marvel team-up?

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by Docx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just can’t believe CSG is filled with pixel lusting neck beards shitting on the little guys. What ever happened to crawling through NToV and including everyone in the raid scene? Seems like greed and entitlement are the true characteristics CSG demands of their raiders and the vision of their leadership! They have positioned themselves as the true bad guys of the server with no end in sight for their tyranny ( for 20 days )! Let’s see if their PR team can spin this in a positive way once they have indulged themselves in all the loots at the end of the suspension.

Its more like the raid rules of the server penalize crawling (for raid targets) In order to remove auto-fire spawn camping they made it so there is no middle ground, you either poopsock/batphone/zone-pull , or you loose to those tactics or a combination of those tactics and the rules being used against you, despite any good intentions of you know.... actually raiding

[Heebs13]

Last I heard Zlandi and triplets were left up by CSG. Just out of curiosity, did you guys go after them at all, or has all your effort been spent on complaining on the forums for the last 48 hours instead?

[skarlorn]

Velious solved all our problems

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Tenderizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on guys, a/a off the scene and CSG was expecting christmas too. How much do they expect to get these 18 days and how Silly do they intend to let it get? throwing us a FU toward the end of 1 MAYBE 2 more dragons kinda stinks. Yet everyone shits all over the scene. What incentive does anyone have to subject themselves to that?

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[Mytral]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last I heard Zlandi and triplets were left up by CSG. Just out of curiosity, did you guys go after them at all, or has all your effort been spent on complaining on the forums for the last 48 hours instead?

Only reasonable reason why these mobs are still up days after spawn is because CSG is ruining EQ.

Still waiting to hear how that Dain fight went.

[Mytral]

Originally Posted by Docx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not dramatic at all, it's the bitching and moaning heard for years and years on this server from the have nots. Finally, when csg is given on a silver platter the keys to the kingdom to wreck all the internet dragons they do! And shitstomp the even more casuals than they in the process! An opportunity was here for a casual raiding style and CSG says lol fuck off and kill the shitmobs we don't want / have time for. How the tables have turned during this holiday!

Don't worry once the suspension is over and CSG made it rain with pixels they will do something to leave a lasting impression of hey we aren't the bad guys we are casuals again!

Equating a group of guilds ensuring that another group of guilds follow server rules set by even more guilds before them to "shitstomping" is almost the definition of dramatic.

But since this is all in your head its difficult to argue.

Merry X'mas

[Nisse]

This thread is adorable. Seriously though, hopefully this suspension will introduce some people to raiding on this server and they will develop a taste for dragon meat. There is no significant barrier to entry into the raiding guilds, all you need is a desire to experience the end game content and a level 55+ character. We play a game that has killing dragons as an option, if you aren't killing dragons and want to be, there are options for you. I sincerely hope to see some of you among our ranks in the coming weeks or months. I've been on this server for many years and have seen a lot of upset players who refuse to participate because they let these forums or their peers convince them that the people in the "raiding" guilds are different kind of player or just bad people in genera. I've been in every kind of guild there is and it usually breaks down to about 95% cool people and around 5% intolerable shitheads, regardless of the shape of pixel you're killing. Don't be fooled by mad people into believing you don't have options on this server, we cater to all playstyles.

[Sadiki]

sigh

Neither group of people enjoy the rules, but both parties knew them, and only one abided by them. I'd hope Sirken would intervene if our officers were doing that too. Waiting around for a 12 hour window for CSG to violate the rule and report them, then knowingly breaking the rule afterwards hoping you won't caught... this is the kind of stuff this server does not need. I don't understand the need to generate all this toxicity and hate. I would go out of my way to respond to every request for help on Lord Bob targets, be cordial with everyone, now I am berated constantly and lies are spread just because I'm AG tagged. The second A/A got banned, the strategy to get targets went from getting along to rulebreaking and petitionquesting. I don't get it. I guess an established 5 year old alliance taking down a mob they almost never get to kill is a crime, for some reason, because someone said it is.

CSG left targets up despite members wanting to raid them, including classic/Kunark mobs, WToV, Ikiatar, Lady N, and triplets. We didn't raid for an entire day of a ban just so we would abide by the raid rule that you can't be in NToV during the Lady M spawn. All we were focused on was attempting Vulak. It's difficult to negotiate targets to anyone the instant a ban hits, and it's unrealistic to randomly give up the first Vulak of a 20 day ban to the force that needed help with Wuoshi and has failed to kill several other easier targets. Two potential quakes could happen at any time, Vulak was just sitting there, and is a very rare opportunity for us that we know we can succeed at (well, eventually, that raid didn't go too well). CSG is mostly full of bright eyed casuals as well. It's really easy to get outraged over everything without thinking about the situation, and it's worse when you are being fed lies constantly from haters. CSG isn't attempting to contest most of the mobs that people are screaming we were forming up to steal. Lady M however is different, and we did nothing for like 20 hours just to not violate a silly rule so we could kill her.

I hope people can be level headed and maybe start getting along at some point... but I'm not betting on it. Instant-outrage culture is just too prevalent nowadays.