Guide On How to Stop Being Fat

[Mead]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mark Rippletoe on Steroids

Interesting take on athletes using steroids.

I agree with him to a certain extent. It’s much harder to put in some serious work than to inject yourself or take a pill. You could put up a good argument that two people training the same exact way, one using steroids, one not, the one using steroids will have a competitive edge. I do believe one day it’s going to be nearly impossible to get away with using any steroids due to awareness and diagnostic testing. You would most likely have to start in high school, which many do, unless they’re testing for it earlier now. I’m not sure about that.

The biggest deterrent to me are the long term side effects. Anabolic steroids are horrible for your body. I would say the majority of anabolic steroid users don’t think about the consequences. And if they do think about it, a lot of them are already balls deep into their professional careers and they’re stuck with a tough choice.

For me there’s also a sense of pride in knowing I’ve been able to reach certain goals and look good without steroid use. Just a lot of hard work with diet and training. I don’t judge anyone who does though. Just be very careful and know what you’re doing to your body long term.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with him to a certain extent. It’s much harder to put in some serious work than to inject yourself or take a pill. You could put up a good argument that two people training the same exact way, one using steroids, one not, the one using steroids will have a competitive edge. I do believe one day it’s going to be nearly impossible to get away with using any steroids due to awareness and diagnostic testing. You would most likely have to start in high school, which many do, unless they’re testing for it earlier now. I’m not sure about that.

The biggest deterrent to me are the long term side effects. Anabolic steroids are horrible for your body. I would say the majority of anabolic steroid users don’t think about the consequences. And if they do think about it, a lot of them are already balls deep into their professional careers and they’re stuck with a tough choice.

For me there’s also a sense of pride in knowing I’ve been able to reach certain goals and look good without steroid use. Just a lot of hard work with diet and training. I don’t judge anyone who does though. Just be very careful and know what you’re doing to your body long term.

I marvel that Arnold has lived as long as he has. I guess they say he took much smaller doses of steroids compared to what competitive bodybuilders do now, but still I wonder how much damage his body took.

[JurisDictum]

He didn't take steroids -- in his era a lot of guys didn't on the professional scene. Now its overrun by guys that are groomed before they are 18 -- which has something to do with getting away with it. Apparently they can detect them usually if you start later.

But there are still plenty of guys that just build muscles without using steroids and take it pretty seriously. A lot of people are jealous of others natural muscular potential. Many people that use steroids BTW -- didn't have to to achieve their gains. They just did it to save a ton of time. It's obvious when people have that roided out muscle look that's not natural -- some of that is impossible without steroids.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He didn't take steroids -- in his era a lot of guys didn't on the professional scene. Now its overrun by guys that are groomed before they are 18 -- which has something to do with getting away with it. Apparently they can detect them usually if you start later.

But there are still plenty of guys that just build muscles without using steroids and take it pretty seriously. A lot of people are jealous of others natural muscular potential. Many people that use steroids BTW -- didn't have to to achieve their gains. They just did it to save a ton of time. It's obvious when people have that roided out muscle look that's not natural -- some of that is impossible without steroids.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/Health/story?id=532456

Almost every one of your posts have shit you are literally just making up. It makes my head hurt.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/Health/story?id=532456

Almost every one of your posts have shit you are literally just making up. It makes my head hurt.

I was wrong about Arnold -- because I never really gave a shit.

I'm telling people:

1) you can get more muscular as a Mesomorph and Endomorph -- and its nice to take advantage of that rather than being fat

2) Building muscle is an important part of keeping weight off for people with bigger bodies.

NO you probably won't win any god damn medals in weight lifting fields without steroids. Was this thread Entitiled: "how to get shreadded to compete with the world champions." You have to start thinking about that shit at 16 with good genetics to even think about that -- so what. That's life.

Nevertheless, you will lose weight listening to that diet advice. It's not just my opinion. And you will be bigger than smaller guys if your born bigger. But no -- you wont look like Arnold did in the linked picture because he was on steroids. However, that's pretty extreme isn't it? You kind of have to be hanging around a lot of weightlifters to even get it in your head you want to look like that anyway.*

But thanks for your contribution skinny guys that have no problems with weight. Arnold did take steroids. BUT -- he still wouldn't have got there if he was born with shit muscle building genetics would he?

But id suggest staying smaller and off steroids.

*the higher growth in the upper muscles is very common with steroid use. Narrow waist making a kind of v line into massive chest, arms, etc. You can kind of see that with Arnold here

[JurisDictum]

Why do humans have to ruin everything with god damn steroids anyway.

Arnold and his fucking "no regrets" -- well thanks asshole.

Thanks for pointing out how awesome it is to use steroids and how there was no lasting effects you regret to everyone.

I guess it would have been too much to ask for something along the lines of: "I'm sorry I was sitting there smiling and posing and getting a bunch of credit for an accomplishment I didn't really do."

It's not like today. It's not like they are all doing it it his era. It was mostly him -- he was the god damn roid guy. He knows hes doing this shit no one else knows about -- taking the credit. That's completely fucked up.

Just like steroids. And there are waaaay more stories about people getting messed up on steroids (or barely using them and backing in time) than people using them to get huge and having a nice little successful life forever.

Keep in mind the professionals using steroids these days have whole god damn teams managing them. If you don't have a team -- I don't care what you say -- it's god damn dangerous.

It just sucks to know everyone in fighting leagues etc... is fucking on the super human juice and playing stupid. No wonder we have such a dishonest society. Everyone's hiding some kind of illegal advantage.

Edit: The reason I was dead wrong about Arnold BTW is because I got mixed up between "Everything in the Arnold and later is all steroids" and thought it was that Arnold was the last era without lots of steroids. It was picking right around the Arnold era -- but it still wasn't as big. This is all academic to me its not like I'm in the sport. It should have been obvious with that picture the more I look though.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Forum Cuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your posts are too long and most people wont read them

go for 1 or 2 sentences, if you cant say what you gotta say in that, just don't bother

You Now Have a Shorter Attention Span Than a Goldfish

It doesn't really matter if someone like that reads it or not because they don't have the ability to discuss complicated issues.

[A1rh3ad]

Creatine is awesome, but not for what most people use it for. It will not make you stronger and barely swells the muscles to such a small point it is not noticeable. What it does do and does very well is cut down recovery time and reduce muscle soreness. That is if you stay properly hydrated.

[skarlorn]

I read a fair amount of your longer posts JD when I actually have the time to concentrate on elf Sim posting. When I'm just in the bathroom I usually speed read
Do not mind forum cuck

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read a fair amount of your longer posts JD when I actually have the time to concentrate on elf Sim posting. When I'm just in the bathroom I usually speed read
Do not mind forum cuck

Well he has a point, just not the one he thinks he has. A post can be long if its interesting. Otherwise its boring and on to the next one. So the skill of the writer is important. One can improve over time, but you never get everyone. Not even close.