derp a derp, ticked at rift

[soup]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not ashamed to admit I think WoW was a fantastic game in Vanilla and early BC. It did so much right it was hard not to like it.

I will forever maintain that children ruined that game. Incessant bitching about class balance, encounter tweaking and the community-imposed min/max insanity drove any difficulty into the ground and reduced challenging content to 'face-roll keyboard for uber l00tz'.

Sadly, Blizzard seems to have set the standard for MMO's to follow.
Rift is metaphorically standing on the shoulders of giants (or maybe riding their coat-tails) because WoW has proven to be successful beyond anyone's imagination, so if you can make WoW, but with a tweak and a twist, you'll probably do well.

Sad but true [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like the Rift devs are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They seem to have a lot of really great ideas and stuff, but they also need to make the game to at least some extent cater to the less desirable audience in order for the game to succeed, and that's going to be the case for pretty much any MMOs coming any time soon.

I doubt we'll ever see the old school style MMO again. Nothing major anyway.

[Smyd]

Playing dungeons in Rift at the correct level is challenging and has fun fights... guess some people like tactics over a circle jerk of players zerging a mob. :P

Not saying the game isn't easy for the most part, but don't shoot an entire game down because you don't agree with it. Of course it's no EQ, but that's not what they are going for.

There is quick reward, but there is also challenge when you need it.

[Ripcord]

T2 dungeons are brutal. Like don't ever expect to beat one with a pug. Its mostly just split second move-out-the-way or hella hard hitting bosses, but if any one member of a 5 man fucks up at all, its a wipe. That's where the real game is. That said it probably won't hold me over all that much longer, after running them all a few times I get less and less excited to spend the 2-4 hours to finish a single instance (and that's a good run).

[Messianic]

Just to irritate some of the reds, WoW PvP was vastly superior (and particularly so at points and times) than EQ PvP could ever hope to be.

WoW PvP was like a fast-paced chess game because of the number and diversity of counters and quite honestly, how well abilities were designed. Not to say there weren't really bad mistakes - facerolling Paladins with pre-nerf divine storm and 20 second WotF undead rogues come to mind....

[Massive Marc]

^classic and BC yes, after that PVP started giving carpal tunnle

[Japan]

lol @ the same faggots who talked shit about wow 5 years ago finally being okay with "vanilla" wow because it's old

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol @ the same faggots who talked shit about wow 5 years ago finally being okay with "vanilla" wow because it's old

Not true. Keep randomly calling people faggots, you'll get far.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to irritate some of the reds, WoW PvP was vastly superior (and particularly so at points and times) than EQ PvP could ever hope to be.

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[Massive Marc]

That doesn't even make sense.

[Rael]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to irritate some of the reds, WoW PvP was vastly superior (and particularly so at points and times) than EQ PvP could ever hope to be.

This. Despite how crappy WoW's PVP may be, it was still less of an afterthought than EQ's.