Why not switch?

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the sake of accuracy, those were two different incidents. The sol ro deal was when I was running around for a quest or something solo, but still, 3 geared players spending a solid 20 minutes chasing me back and forth on the zone line was pretty lame.

I know, I'm just saying that it's not any kind of stretch to imagine that those players would spend 20 minutes working down into a dungeon for no other reason than to disrupt your xping as well. There's nowhere that you are going to be SAFE if a few raid geared 60's decide that you're not having fun today.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its true, I mean hell I love blue... I just wish the "great community" on blue, wouldnt shit all over their red pals.

It just shows that they think less of themselves and are embarrassed or jellous of red players.

Yall should embrace both our servers and stop your fricking endless tales of how difficult it is to play on red.

They are tales of why red isn't worth playing on, and almost all of them come down to one thing - the red players. That's why you get shit on, and you saying that every story of how the people on red were awful is some kind of made up propaganda against the server doesn't change anything.

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why is it up to red to act like well adjusted people when nobody on blue acts that way?

You have no players, figure it out.

[mickmoranis]

Its so absurd to me that people out there... people that play on p99... are like, 'you have no normal players and red players are jerks and crazy'

yall fuckers are all fuckn nuts

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its so absurd to me that people out there... people that play on p99... are like, 'you have no normal players and red players are jerks and crazy'

yall fuckers are all fuckn nuts

It's nothing personal, it's just simpler to generalize all red players as degenerate, awful, misanthropic players.

***Kind of like how you generalize all blue players as "fuckn nuts."

[mickmoranis]

sigh

you seem to be dedicated to being right, im sorry your irl is so bad that you have to be such a scummer on an elf sim.

but please tell me how were bad again.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sigh

you seem to be dedicated to being right, im sorry your irl is so bad that you have to be such a scummer on an elf sim.

but please tell me how were bad again.

Seeing you have grown angry and taken to insulting me IRL (which hurts my feelings I am very sensitive btw,) I will be honest with you.

I personally don't care what people have written about red or the players there. All the horror stories, true or false mean nothing to me.

My reason for not playing on red is because it has no population. It hardly has 100 active players on it at peak time.

This is awful. It's desolate bro. Dead.

Normally when something is dead, we bury it and move on. For some macabre reason Rogean keeps this husk of a corpse going though.

They really should just bury this dead server already so the 20 wishful red p99 people stop staring at it, hoping that one day it will return back to life.

Then again, this dead server gives some people a real purpose. Maybe for their livelihood, it needs to go on till we all dead and buried ourselves.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normally when something is dead, we bury it and move on

You're arguing with me on an emulated server of a dead game

You're arguing with me on an emulated server of a dead game

You're arguing with me on an emulated server of a dead game

You're arguing with me on an emulated server of a dead game

You're arguing with me on an emulated server of a dead game

[tnttoken]

Bump

[stormlord]

I do think Vallon/Tallon Zek were better. Wasn't it the case those on the same team couldn't attack each other? Either way, it was more controlled PvP on top of hte level limit, making it friendlier. I think it was also more RP-oriented.

I think with the pops being so low on red, maybe htey should try a team server.

Keep in mind my PvP server of choice was Sullon Zek. I loved that server. I did have some alts on Vallon/Tallon. But to be curt, I liked hte mayhem on Sullon. It was a special thing to be able to kill and be killed by anybody.

If it were me, I might alternatively setup a top 100 page for those who kill others the most, and also organize by guild. I know numbers can be a probelm, but you got to remember PvPer's are very competitive and love numbers. It's worth noting you don't get high numbers if you kill somebody lower level than yourself. You also can't kill the same player repeatedly for points.

Back in the day, eqplayers.com kept PvP stats for all the PvP servers. It was part of the fun.

Beyond that, it might also be worth wiping the PvP servers now and then. I've noticed in PvP MMO's wiping is a tool increasingly used to combat the wealth of top guilds. It resets the field, giving everybody a more equal chance. In Everquest it has an even bigger relevance, since twinks are commonly made to prey on the leveling population. A wipe eliminate them.

One of the probelms with server wiping is when the server is approaching a wipe players may lose interest and wait for the wipe to finish before playing. This can be countered by only announcing the wipe date a week early and not making it too predictable when it'll occur. There migjht be other methods. Server wiping as a tool to counter unfair fights is still evolving.