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Old 04-05-2017, 06:48 PM
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if you feel that way, so glad we got that sorted out
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:51 PM
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I can only think of a few instances (out of 100's of drops) where officers overstepped the system, and in each case officers were quickly called out on it.

But I don't need to argue this. Everything is on the website, in plain view. You can see every single loot award in the history of the guild (minus preDKP/non-raid stuff).
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:57 PM
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Would like to go over these loot award records with my accountant HB and provide an independent audit.

U got a blue line 4 me?
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:57 PM
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also, i know a few instances that officers overstepped dkp because someone wanted a minor upgrade or wanted an item that was clearly not an item they should bid on.

also saw times when they didnt because they were told to fuckoff because someone wanted that item and they wanted to spend their dkp on THAT item.

neither time or any time did i ever see it in relation to any of leaderships toons.

not worth arguing, sometimes people literally dont want to see the things a different way because they are so emotionally invested in one viewpoint.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:59 PM
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ill get my pal to make a spreadsheet and ill post it on my blog.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:00 PM
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also, i know a few instances that officers overstepped dkp because someone wanted a minor upgrade or wanted an item that was clearly not an item they should bid on.

also saw times when they didnt because they were told to fuckoff because someone wanted that item and they wanted to spend their dkp on THAT item.

neither time or any time did i ever see it in relation to any of leaderships toons.

not worth arguing, sometimes people literally dont want to see the things a different way because they are so emotionally invested in one viewpoint.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:03 PM
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a few instances that officers overstepped dkp
someone wanted a minor upgrade
clearly not an item they should bid on
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:06 PM
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so what you're telling me is that my synopsis is correct
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:12 PM
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Nobody is trying to argue that DKP systems are perfect. Only that over the long term, they tend to be fair for members due to stripping a lot of power from the officers. For example, if an officer has personal issues with a member, they are very limited in screwing them on loot. There will always be edge cases in either system (DKP or Loot Council).
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:19 PM
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I raided a month or two with apex most of the loot was distributed fairly. Straight dkp mains over Alts. Is the system great for late comers looking for bis loot? Probably not top 30ish we're pretty much locked above you forever. The only real problem was st keys going to cyrens 8th rogue over mains that guild members would then be forced to play for pve.
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