Raiding Guild Behavior

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh he is a newbie, that explains a lot.

How have the mechanics changed training a zone exit? They haven't. If anything you'll just bring less, but it's the same shit. Still confused to as why he had no stamina. Did he also try to train with no sow? (alt tab jumping ? lol)

You do realise CSG rarely puts in petitions. I havent seen the fraps/wasn't there so hard to comment. Some people say it was deliberate some say otherwise. Why are you so sure it was unintentional. Have you seen the fraps or is it another case of just blindly believing what your guidies tell you? You know what happened when ppl did that last time? the guy was shown be to be a liar and much humble pie was eaten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] and on top of that still welcomed back with open arms (hilarious).

Im gonna come to ToV with my SK and train anything that moves!

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because taking the high road is completely out of the question

You mean like apologizing for the mistake, having the appology accepted and then getting petitioned anyway? That is the new moral high road brought to you by CSG

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unlike you I was there, and I know the necro in question. The fact that you don't even comprehend how the leashing mechanics would change the train outs from entrance to west proves you don't have to knowledge to make any judgements here. You can't just hit the zone in mobs and then take a TL to zone out anymore. You actually have to run ahead of the train. The fraps in question is brought to you but the petitioning party, kind of stupid of you to think it would show anything other than what they want. Considering you obviously weren't there, haven't even seen the fraps, and clearly don't even know what you're talking about, you should probably just stay quiet.

There are a certain number of mobs from the zone in to west and all of those mobs still shot same as before as long as you do it right. More proof of you responding out of ignorance though

CSG has changed in the last couple months in case you hadn't noticed lol. No idea who you're talking about being a liar and welcomed back, but there is apparently a lot you comment on that you don't comprehend.

Oh you must be referring to hyjal? That is a different guild, but I can't expect people like you to get their facts straight. Not to mention that hyjal told officers that he was past the line, they just didn't care.

[Ravager]

I don't care who does it or how it happens, every train is 100% avoidable. Have unwanted aggro? Simply drop dead. Your body isn't going anywhere and with 96% rezzes and necros everywhere, there's nothing lost but your own time. Hell, even if you didn't want to bother with the recovery, you can wait a week for it to rot and the GM's are nice enough to summon it to EC for you.

The moment you run with mobs, its your fault if someone else gets killed and you wind up wasting their time and the GM's. Don't like it that it leads to a guild suspension? Make it clear to your members that if they have unwanted aggro on a raid they should drop dead.

No excuses.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because taking the high road is completely out of the question

We tried that for awhile. We just get petitioned and casuals hate us anyways. Hope their petition game stays sharp.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh you must be referring to hyjal? That is a different guild, but I can't expect people like you to get their facts straight. Not to mention that hyjal told officers that he was past the line, they just didn't care.

he's progressed to arguing with himself even. this kid is taking the game to dark new places!

[Phatez]

As copied from AM forums

I deeply apologize for my action, specifically that it resulted in a guild suspension. I can explain exactly what happened and maybe that will help prevent someone from making the same mistake. I was fairly new to training to west when this occured(it was right after the leash mechanics) and zoning out was what I had done to drop trains. This particular instance call of bones wore off during the train out and I was stuck in gnome form trying to exit. I burned all of my endurance running to the zone out so I could not jump on the pad. By the time I figured this was a problem I turned and the mobs had gone around the corner. It was a combination of me being a noob(should always flop trains at LTK; should not burn endurance if your a gnome and need to jump to zone out) and unfortunate call of bones fades timing.

I am out of town and don't have my laptop with me, but I am assuming I will get an individual Ban for this. If not the leadership has my blessing to offer a 30 day ban for Phatez instead of the guild ban since it was my individual mistake and unintentional.

Sorry guys,

Phatez

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he's progressed to arguing with himself even. this kid is taking the game to dark new places!

Can't edit on RnF and mobile is annoying. I realized who he was talking about so I put it at the end of my other post. Sorry I guess

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean like apologizing for the mistake, having the appology accepted and then getting petitioned anyway? That is the new moral high road brought to you by CSG

Provide screenshots, fraps or lots of someone of leadership from CSG saying it's ok or shut up. You're blaming the victim and you look stupid. Most of AM normal forum posters are staying quiet because they realize what bad form it is to blame someone else after they just got suspended.

I think it sucks AM got suspended for an old petition. Especially because i am hopeful that the days of yelling concede and going straight to petitions was over. But damn, just own up to it and come back in 10 days. Corner the yellow text pixel market and deny casuals of everything.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Provide screenshots, fraps or lots of someone of leadership from CSG saying it's ok or shut up. You're blaming the victim and you look stupid. Most of AM normal forum posters are staying quiet because they realize what bad form it is to blame someone else after they just got suspended.

I think it sucks AM got suspended for an old petition. Especially because i am hopeful that the days of yelling concede and going straight to petitions was over. But damn, just own up to it and come back in 10 days. Corner the yellow text pixel market and deny casuals of everything.

Lol what? Those screen shots have already been submitted to Sirken from what we have been told. No one is blaming the victim, I'm calling the victim shady and underhanded. They were trained on accident, were apologized to for that train yet someone in the alliance petitioned anyway.

What normal AM posters are you talking about? Everyone in AM who usually posts has posted in this thread alone...