Rules Clarification Request

[Tassador]

Lol lawyer quest in process rules changes and crying pending.

[Gardur]

It seems the basis of the problem here is Cylock doesn't have any idea how things have been done in the past and thus is making calls based on the letter of the law without regard to our elf law version of jurisprudence.

That is how Red Dawn was forced to eat YT to force LNS, because the rules simply say "died". Later this was reinterpreted to just mean the force "lost".

With no regard to the past ruling that pelling in range of at least person in the raid force is allowed; he just read the rules and took them literally.

We're adaptive people we can deal with rule changes but we were given NO NOTICE and ate character suspensions based on a rule change we had no idea happened.

Sirken could have cleared everything up by tossing out some warnings and posting a rule clarification instead he just moved the appeals to resolved.

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by Cwall 146.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well it is very concerning that fandango was suspended for training based on the video that symbiotic posted

it is even more concerning that after thoroughly explaining how the video actually proves that fandango was not the person who trained the mobs into the HoT zoneout room, cylock immediately dismisses it saying "this is our ruling."

he either simply does not understand aggro mechanics (very bad for someone with the power to suspend/ban), or he is unwilling to admit that he is wrong (very bad for someone with the power to suspend/ban)

it is compounded by the fact that he does things like going into visible ogre form while partially blocking a narrow zoneline, followed by deathtouching people in the middle of a PvP fight because they're telling him that he is stupid for doing something like that, as it got someone killed when they were trying to zone; his reasoning? "they were messaging me in tells shit talking me"

this demonstrates that his solution to a player lashing out at him is not to simply mute and/or ignore them, but kill them and risk swaying the tide of a PvP engagement; having thin skin while trying to police this community will only end poorly (see: Derubael)

even moreso, he's frequently consulting someone like Braknar for advice on rule interpretation, aka someone who also has no idea how EQ PvP works along with very little history enforcing PvP-specific rules on this server, as evident by informing people that they're allowed to kill members of a guild who are participating in force LNS, even though force LNS has never worked that way, and suspending people for dispelling raid mobs on in-range-to-PvP characters, which has been explicitly stated by Sirken and Llandris to be legal for several years now

cylock seemed to be a very good thing for this server, but if he does not figure out how things have worked and should work around here, he will end up doing more harm than good

Didn't read but would vote to free fandango based on this guy track record on understanding of eq pvp mechanics.

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Cwall 146.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if cylock truly wants to help the server, he will educate himself on red99 mechanics and rule.

Breaking hide, sneak, and feign is now against the rules. Just gonna throw this out there "This us a red server. Red things happen."

[Samaritan]

Originally Posted by Cwall 146.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if cylock truly wants to help the server, he will educate himself on red99 mechanics and rules

then, he needs to step back and stop using this as a popularity and attention outlet

[Mingo]

Originally Posted by Cwall 146.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if cylock truly wants to help the server, he will educate himself on red99 mechanics and rules

then, he needs to step back and stop using this as a popularity and attention outlet

Vanity has been a defining characteristic and downfall of many of the csr staff in the history of Red99. Hopefully Cylock can avoid this pitfall for the sake of all of your elven fun.

[hatelore]

Sounds like this new guide is half retarded. yikes.

[hatelore]

I knew shit was going downhill the moment I heard about that ruling of breaking fd in pvp or breaking hide/sneak was against the rules. the fuck these guys never played a red server before?

[shokar]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I knew shit was going downhill the moment I heard about that ruling of breaking fd in pvp or breaking hide/sneak was against the rules. the fuck these guys never played a red server before?

is this real

[Retticus]

I sure hope that's not real