Raiding Guild Behavior

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of those suspensions minus one for awakened have been due to petitions between A/A.

That's irrelevant. Suspensions are proof enough that they're doing something wrong.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So who exactly are they shitting on and how are they getting away with it?

What you see them suspended for is only a fraction of the offenses. Some get decided through concessions. Others go ignored. Some are determined to be minor to Sirken so there's no punishment, but they're not excusable to everybody.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If A/A are so obviously cheating then why aren't the other entities in there proving it?

Because we CHOOSE not to raid here. We don't wish to deal with the train wars or the escalating cheating (both A/A using screen tearing for faster running) or life crippling strategies (CotH ducking, anyone?).

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one cares what you want the raid scene to be like

That's why these kind of posts have been popping up since the TMO days, right?

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even the Guides have said if you don't like it, the door is over there.

Is that better for you? Basically if you don't like it now l, no one is making you stay on this server. But even the GMs have said shit isnt changing, just because people like you don't want to commit the time that others are willing to commit.

I've played here a lot longer than you. You don't get to dictate when I do or do not quit playing. Changes have been made before. Either A/A is going to get on board or play nice or they will see themselves permanently raid suspended for the benefit of the rest of the server.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All these threads do is reinforce that a majority of those who post don't actually comprehend what the raid scene is like. As proven by idiots like you still bitching about TMO while never even raiding since velious launched. Maybe when you figure out that your opinion is irrelevant, like you in general, you can move on past an emulated EQ server and have a meaningful life.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Auto correct due to mobile kicked in twice and instead of figuring it out you deflect like a little bitch? I thought you were better than that.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead little children like yourself, jump onto the Forums and bitch like the reason for the suspension was somehow relevant to, or affected, you in any way.

I don't think you're an intelligent person. Statements like these just paint you as some sort of mongoloid and help to reinforce that you're not very smart. I am going to ignore them in the future. If you continue, I'm going to ignore you all together.

[Tetsuo]

70 million years ago dinosaurs had all the good niches and crushed or ate everything else, which left the mammals with nothing but the bottom of the food chain.

After the extinction mammals became the big guy in town and do the same.

The same thing would happen if you got rid of A/A. FoH, Venerate, or w/e would just fill the top niche and shit on everyone else.

The rules which are made to promote competition and give casuals a "chance" are arguably catering to the hostility of the raid scene.

Competition is why lions get so violent and kill competitor offspring and bite off reproductive organs of their enemies.

I've seen A/A believe it or not (I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it happen) work with a smaller non raiding guild to take out a raid target.

I've also seen them completely over take smaller guilds in arena because AoW had popped, and they didn't care about the disruption they cause because you know the AoW was there.

Originally Posted by Sancta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you don't have a guild doesn't mean you can't get your epics, but if you don't have any friends that does mean you can't get your epics.

For some epics you could never finish with any old guild or "friends" because the raid mobs you need are poop socked to the extreme and you would never get a chance at it, or you could spend 100 - 500k per quest piece to get it from the poopsockers giving them even more reason to prevent others from getting in on their cash cows I mean epics drops/mobs.

[Munkh]

OMG, Maner lighten up. It was a bit of humor.

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Munkh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I suck because I don't have any EQ friends...... HAHA

No. My play time is so irregular that I need to make more EQ friends as my toons are getting close to levels and can have their epics.

No one said you suck, but you legit can't solo most epic content. So it's either get a guild, make friends there or no guild and make friends on your own to help you.
Or you could always pay people to help you kill stuff if you have the plat. Or just simply buy MQ for your epic pieces (depending on epic).
Shrug.

[Kushie]

Maner is living in a fantasy world lol

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Kushie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maner is living in a fantasy world lol

He's defending his lifestyle. Just like Erati was doing on Page 3 and 4. They know they're about to lose it, so they're holding on as hard as they can.

[Kushie]

Aftermath and Awakened would never be childish and shitty to each other, both victims of the system (lol)

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Tetsuo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some epics you could never finish with any old guild or "friends" because the raid mobs you need are poop socked to the extreme and you would never get a chance at it, or you could spend 100 - 500k per quest piece to get it from the poopsockers giving them even more reason to prevent others from getting in on their cash cows I mean epics drops/mobs.

Some epics are harder than others, very true. If your old guild or "friends" can't help you get that "super poopsocked mob" then they aren't the right guild/friends to get you your epic. Unfortunately that's how this game on this server is played. Find a guild/friends that do those things and you'll get your epic. That could be said for any item in the game, there is some guilds/group of friends that get these things so they are not impossible to get.

As far as I know the white/green scales from Vox/Gore/Sev/Hoshkar are NOT sold at all whatsoever, which ironically enough are "super poop socked" by casual raid guilds with the exception of Hoshkar in VP.

[Kushie]

Probably higher than someone named "spanky"

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's irrelevant. Suspensions are proof enough that they're doing something wrong.



What you see them suspended for is only a fraction of the offenses. Some get decided through concessions. Others go ignored. Some are determined to be minor to Sirken so there's no punishment, but they're not excusable to everybody.



Because we CHOOSE not to raid here. We don't wish to deal with the train wars or the escalating cheating (both A/A using screen tearing for faster running) or life crippling strategies (CotH ducking, anyone?).



That's why these kind of posts have been popping up since the TMO days, right?



I've played here a lot longer than you. You don't get to dictate when I do or do not quit playing. Changes have been made before. Either A/A is going to get on board or play nice or they will see themselves permanently raid suspended for the benefit of the rest of the server.





I don't think you're an intelligent person. Statements like these just paint you as some sort of mongoloid and help to reinforce that you're not very smart. I am going to ignore them in the future. If you continue, I'm going to ignore you all together.

This all just reeks of entitlement and deflection. No one cares why you don't choose to raid on this server anymore. Just like how no one would care if you decided to raid here. the point is you have admitted you don't and haven't for over a year. Your opinion regarding the raid scene is uninformed due to you not being a part of what you're complaining about.

How do you know that what they are suspended for is just a fraction? Do you have special access to the petitions forums? Do you routinely go and ask every other guild on the server how has A/A touched you this wee? you haven't said a single thing that would demonstrate some intimate knowledge with the raid scene, in fact you have admitted to the opposite. Basically you are running on pure assumption and opinion. You assume there are rule infractions happening on every encounter, you think that somehow the top 2 guilds are able to physically restrain other guilds from getting FTEs. Neither of those things are true. in fact if you weren't a complete tool you may have noticed that the dates for the 2 current infractions were a month apart. Which is further proof that in fact things aren't even close to as bad as you make them out to be. A/A is not shitting on any of the more casual raiding guilds, because 90% of the time those other guilds aren't even there.

Who is the we that chooses not to raid here? and how are they in any way informed enough to comment on the raid scene if they aren't even willing to attempt to participate in it?

I don't see where i told you to quit, i told you what Sirken has said. If you don't like it the door is that way. Changes have been made and the people who make those changes have said that you and those like you begging for a rotation are shit out of luck. A/A have no reason to create or agree to a rotation right now because the guilds people like you represent are obviously not a threat to them keeping a monopoly on raid targets.

The reason you don't think I am very intelligent is because i resorted to dumbing down what i wrote so that you could actually comprehend it. At least you didn't deflect like a little bitch as much this time.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's defending his lifestyle. Just like Erati was doing on Page 3 and 4. They know they're about to lose it, so they're holding on as hard as they can.

How are we going to "lose it"? Are you somehow taking over hosting of the server so that you can make your own rules? There have never been guide enforced rotations on this server so why would they start now? The "rotations" we had were due to player made agreements and they were then destroyed because of the very players that pushed for rotations.

Its not a problem that everyone has an opinion, the problem comes when the uninformed, like you, feel the need to express them

Originally Posted by Kushie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maner is living in a fantasy world lol

Me stating the obvious doesn't make it a fantasy world. The only fantasy being expressed on these forums is you, thinking what you say is in any way relevant, or even close to be considered trolling. Should go look up some political stories on social media, more specifically anything involving the BLM movement if you want to see what trolling is.