ninja looting does not mean you make the rules

[Seaweedpimp]

Lol peeps cant read.

You guys really need to give zepp a break.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Chanur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a shame you stopped licking windows long enough to post this.

Who the fuck are you and why the fuck are you making personal attacks against me? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize I was calling him out along with everyone else at first, right? And now that he is trying to rectify the situation, I pointed out that someone continuing to berate him would make that someone a raging tool.

[Kassel]

soup did you play on thunderlord?

[Ledzepp02]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, as a monk, why are you looting if your intention wasn't to just steal it from the group and just give it to a guildie from the get-go?

First item I looted of note, save ES gloves from waaaay earlier in the day. In fact I might have only rolled on three or four items the entire time. The item had been on the corpse a while, and people constantly run through LCY. The item was valueable so I held onto it until the rolls were over. This is not a new concept with droppable items.

Anyways, as soon as I see him and the person with the axe, we can both apologize while I hand it over (slow motion through a field of dandelions of course, it's the only way.)

[Salty]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was calling him out along with everyone else

Playing basketball like a team player.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

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[soup]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

soup did you play on thunderlord?

Nope.

Well, don't think so anyway. Had a period of time where I did lots of account trading, but pretty sure I was never there.

[Gibcarver]

Thank you for coming around zep. I got some sleep too and thought about what you said and I admit that from your position the view must be different.

I had a bunch of stuff opened to quote from the previous pages but I will swallow my pride and keep quiet on them in favor of closing the thread. I did not not ever see loot rules discussed.

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm very sorry for that part of it.

Thank you for swallowing your pride and taking the first steps in making things right.

I am sorry for the confusion.

-Gor

[Loke]

Wow, it never fails to amaze me when I encounter situations such as this one that could have been easily avoided with a little communication.

Working under the assumption that the loot rules were determined prior to the OP joining and upon joining he was informed of the loot rules, then he certainly is to blame for ensuring that he understood them. However, when the dispute arose (i.e. him wanting NBG, and you wanting /random) a discussion should have taken place prior to proceeding with awarding anyone loot. To simply ignore a group member and carry on is completely unacceptable. You invited him into your group and as such, you have a responsibility to him as a group member. If he wasn't working out in the group as you claim you should have parted ways with him.

If I had been in your situation, what I would have done was stop pulls and explain to him that there were predetermined loot rules. If he still had a problem with it, I would ask the group vote on it (i.e. you should win 5 to 1). At this point I would explain to him that the group had out-voted him, and that we would be rolling on the item, his failure to roll would be taken as him forfeiting his opportunity at the loot as we had reached a point where discussion was useless and the group must carry on. After awarding the loot, and offering him his fair chance at the loot, I would politely ask him to leave the group because it was clearly not working out.

The problem here seems to be that no one was communicating and there were a lot of ridiculous assumptions being thrown around. It isn't very hard to settle most issues in a democratic manner, but you do have to make some effort.

Also, TURN YOUR LOG FILE ON! My log file dates back to like March of 2010 because I keep it on at all times for situations like this. While logs aren't quite screenshots, they are definitely better than nothing and can present what happened in an objective manner.

[Loke]

Ok, so I wrote that last post while I was watching something on TV and just noticed I made a few minor mistakes. I'm going to assuming you guys can figure out what I was trying to say! Sorry.