PSA: Shamsade <Dawn Believers> is an EC scammer

[Panicsferd]

Originally Posted by Rysky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OPs scammer is Allios!?!?!?!?! I would like to see some confirmation on this!

It's a rumor, but who knows what is the truth... the truth is though that shamsade did scam people and I don't want to be associated with that or the guild anymore since now because of what happened the <Dawn Believers> name has been tarnished.

[nimalol]

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[sezaru]

CONGRATS!

[sezaru]

ON YOUR CEREMONIAL IKSAR CHESTPLATE!

[Rysky]

Originally Posted by Panicsferd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a rumor, but who knows what is the truth... the truth is though that shamsade did scam people and I don't want to be associated with that or the guild anymore since now because of what happened the <Dawn Believers> name has been tarnished.

Although I understand where you are coming from, I do not think that's fair to take the actions of one person, whom belonged to a guild that invites low level players of all races and classes and hold him responsible to the guild name. He has been removed from his tag and we never condone such behavior.

I am an officer of the Believers and I can vouch for Allios, whom I've known for several months now and can say he is a genuine and overall great person! Even if this supposed rumor was true that Shamshade is our leaders alt, why in the hell would he invite his alt into the guild to do his evil doings.

Once again I can speak for Allios when I say the goal of Dawn Believers was to become a massive guild of all levels, with hopes of forming alliances and able to sneak our higher levels into raids while waiting for the rest to catch up so we could begin attempting as a guild.

All that being said I would like to clear Allios or Godsun, or anyone wearing the Beliver tag of this one foul creatures action. Until you prove otherwise I am sticking by my leaders side and backing the guild all the way.

Rysky Business 51 Iksar Necromancer and Officer of Dawn Believers

[Rysky]

Originally Posted by kelsoider [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is sad. Grouped with this guy in Mistmoore and gave him a lot of eq advice the last few days. Seemed like a true noobish returning player at the time; had a million questions about EQ; but perhaps it was just an ingratiating strategy.
I can tell you that he did ask a lot of questions about making pp; would that he had stuck to my advice and just leveled.
Also, I live on Okinawa so my prime time is 2-7am east coast. Shamsade would be on during the entirety during consecutive days. Therefore I must conclude that he is some sort of batlike creature or on drugs. Might explain a few thing either way.
Btw- SHAMsade- an allusion perhaps?

This is what I've found as solid proof of this scammers identity as to not being the guild leader of the Believers. Allios is usually on from 2PM-10PM est. now I can't say I've been online during the times stated in quoted comment, but I would guarantee that it's not Allios

[Panicsferd]

Originally Posted by Rysky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Although I understand where you are coming from, I do not think that's fair to take the actions of one person, whom belonged to a guild that invites low level players of all races and classes and hold him responsible to the guild name. He has been removed from his tag and we never condone such behavior.

I am an officer of the Believers and I can vouch for Allios, whom I've known for several months now and can say he is a genuine and overall great person! Even if this supposed rumor was true that Shamshade is our leaders alt, why in the hell would he invite his alt into the guild to do his evil doings.

Once again I can speak for Allios when I say the goal of Dawn Believers was to become a massive guild of all levels, with hopes of forming alliances and able to sneak our higher levels into raids while waiting for the rest to catch up so we could begin attempting as a guild.

All that being said I would like to clear Allios or Godsun, or anyone wearing the Beliver tag of this one foul creatures action. Until you prove otherwise I am sticking by my leaders side and backing the guild all the way.

Rysky Business 51 Iksar Necromancer and Officer of Dawn Believers

I guess what is done is done, and to tell you the truth I was kind of thinking of leaving the guild when I reached 46 to join a raiding guild that is casual and ready to raid all ready, but I guess this whole shamsade thing escalated so I decided to part ways sooner then I imagined.

I was probably not going to leave the guild till I was 46+ - I think I actually left when I was still in my hell level at 45, so I guess enjoy the guild and have safe travels.

[Rysky]

Originally Posted by Panicsferd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess what is done is done, and to tell you the truth I was kind of thinking of leaving the guild when I reached 46 to join a raiding guild that is casual and ready to raid all ready, but I guess this whole shamsade thing escalated so I decided to part ways sooner then I imagined.

I was probably not going to leave the guild till I was 46+ - I think I actually left when I was still in my hell level at 45, so I guess enjoy the guild and have safe travels.

Aye, like many others have voiced in the past, sorry we couldn't fulfill your needs. We are trying to partner up with guilds that host open raids to give the players some "new to them content" to experience while we still try to mature internally as a guild and grow as a whole. Good luck to ya! But saying the guild name was tarnished and that's the reason you left is a little harsh, don't ya think?

[NuanImproved]

Originally Posted by Sprawlz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry if I'm good at business =)

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Pfft. Everytime I'm in EC and you're online you try to lowball me by 40% for what I'm selling, or try to sell me something I'm trying to buy for at least 40% more than I auctioned that I'd pay for it. You've done this quite a few times, despite me politely telling you that I refuse to do business to you and to please stop asking. Buying and reselling is fine, but lowballing everyone and scamming impatient people is just lame. Enjoy your slow-earned plat while you make everyone hate you a little more each day. I like the idea that this scammer was specifically targeting you, because I've never met a dishonest person on this server.

[debuilder]

Just copy pasting this from the other thread about shamsade, apparently lots of people are saying it's Allio's alt.

Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you have to say about the allegations that Shamsade is your alt?

Originally Posted by Panicsferd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I left this guild after hearing that he scammed fellow guildies and even a lot more people in EC tunnels and now with rumors of him shamsade being the guild leader I can no longer associate my self with guild.

Originally Posted by Kjellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just chiming in to say that about a dozen people have told me in-game that Shamsade is indeed an alt of the Dawn Believers GL. Take that for whatever it's worth.