Titanium DL

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you're suggesting is a pretty clear cut case of bait trolling. People who know they are wrong but spread false information around to get more people vocal about it and pressure us to reveal more than we normally would to 'set the record' straight. This kind of trolling is deliberate, it doesn't work here anymore, and frankly it's quite annoying.

So with that said I will not comment on your gross inaccurate assumptions regarding our legal status with Daybreak. I will clarify my original statement, where I commented on your misunderstanding of how contractual law works, by saying this: Contracts and legal agreements have breach clauses. This means that one side, regardless of any change in management personnel, cannot arbitrarily decide that they don't want to honor it anymore.

/lolthread

[nectarprime]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*copyrighted

I'm not saying if you leech a torrent you'll be found guilty in a court of law, just that a cease and desist letter will still be sent. That letter won't be sent to you; it will go to your ISP, who has no idea if you were only downloading copyrighted material without authorization, or redistributing copyrighted material without authorization, both of which are illegal and the logical thing to assume. Since your ISP doesn't know if what you were doing was actually illegal per se, they send you an automatic response saying, "Hey, this IP company representing this huge corporation is on our ass because you're torrenting a bunch of shit - cut it out or we'll suspend your service." It is then up to you if you want contest the claims being made by the IP company, in the case that you had authorization to download said material and you weren't redistributing it. Even if you're innocent and you had authorization, you're still just going to find a way to hide your IP address instead of getting into a lawsuit with a company whose toilet paper is worth more than your life.

It WILL be sent? Show me one cease and desist letter sent over the downloading of Titanium. And don't move the goalpoasts like you've been doing. Just answer the question.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*copyrighted

I'm not saying if you leech a torrent you'll be found guilty in a court of law, just that a cease and desist letter will still be sent. That letter won't be sent to you; it will go to your ISP, who has no idea if you were only downloading copyrighted material without authorization, or redistributing copyrighted material without authorization, both of which are illegal and the logical thing to assume. Since your ISP doesn't know if what you were doing was actually illegal per se, they send you an automatic response saying, "Hey, this IP company representing this huge corporation is on our ass because you're torrenting a bunch of shit - cut it out or we'll suspend your service." It is then up to you if you want contest the claims being made by the IP company, in the case that you had authorization to download said material and you weren't redistributing it. Even if you're innocent and you had authorization, you're still just going to find a way to hide your IP address instead of getting into a lawsuit with a company whose toilet paper is worth more than your life.

I'll respect you enough to assume you aren't intentionally spreading wrong information. Where are you getting your information from?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by nectarprime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It WILL be sent?

Yes. In the case that you're leeching copyrighted media - which is what we've been talking about, not just Titanium specifically - your ISP is just as susceptible to cease and desist letters as it would be if you're seeding that copyrighted media. That was the initial point I was making, and it's still the point I'm making - I don't need to respond to your strawmanned "A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER WILL BE SENT 100% OF THE TIME?! LOL NO IT WON'T". That's not what I was arguing.

Originally Posted by nectarprime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show me one cease and desist letter sent over the downloading of Titanium. And don't move the goalpoasts like you've been doing. Just answer the question.

What? There isn't the slightest inkling throughout the entirety of this thread that I was ever saying you would get a cease and desist letter from downloading Titanium, legally or otherwise. If you can't follow the plot, please don't jump into the conversation.

[nectarprime]

Oh fuck off, don't try and act like you're smarter than anyone here. You just said that even if you leech copyrighted media you WILL get a C&D, and then in you very next post you say that you never said that. Then you try and put me down because you're talking yourself in circles and can't even keep your story straight.

Again, moving the goalposts when you're asked to prove your statements. Everyone here knows you're just tooting your own horn.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll respect you enough to assume you aren't intentionally spreading wrong information. Where are you getting your information from?

From having dealt with it firsthand, being the person whose name an internet subscription that was flagged for infringing activity was registered under. Something to keep in mind if you ever share your connection with family or roommates, etc. - they won't make a distinction between them and you, since all that matters is the name of the account holder.

[nectarprime]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From having dealt with it firsthand, being the person whose name an internet subscription that was flagged for infringing activity was registered under. Something to keep in mind if you ever share your connection with family or roommates, etc. - they won't make a distinction between them and you, since all that matters is the name of the account holder.

Literally everyone who has ever torrented a movie has gotten one of those, it doesn't matter and no one cares.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by nectarprime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh fuck off, don't try and act like you're smarter than anyone here. You just said that even if you leech copyrighted media you WILL get a C&D, and then in you very next post you say that you never said that. Then you try and put me down because you're talking yourself in circles and can't even keep your story straight.

Again, moving the goalposts when you're asked to prove your statements. Everyone here knows you're just tooting your own horn.

Again, go read up on straw-manning someone's argument versus steel-manning someone's argument. I don't respond kindly to people who are obviously capable of knowing what I meant, yet latch onto insignificant details like the use of "will" instead of "can", which doesn't have anything to do with my overall point. That's how you construct a paltry, weaker version of someone's argument so that you can feel like you've won the debate when you topple it. It's not impressive.

[nectarprime]

You're a dumbass, everyone here knows your're a dumbass (including Rogean), nothing you type will change that lmao

[Geek.Verve]

I didn't realize there were so many attorneys in this community. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]