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Old 01-11-2017, 06:17 AM
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There is no fix to raiding as long as the toxic people remain on the server - remove the small group of unemployed people and you fix the server.

How do you do that? If I went into a newbie zone and started shouting obscenities and insults in chat I'd get a warning or a ban. Same standards should apply to all zones, including tells, irrespective of what guild you are in or what your doing.

Staff have let standards of behavior towards others slide so badly that the usual effect of the toxic idiot being banned isn't happening - you can tell someone in /shout /ooc to go kill themselves, f their mother, pretty much anything and nothing will be done during raiding. When you consider this stuff is being said over a really badly rendered 2 dimensional dragon in a video game and the offenders are adults its embarrassing.

I guarantee you within a few months the worst offenders on the server will be gone, they cannot help themselves, and with them gone theres a chance that people will step in and start to act a little better towards others playing this game.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:29 AM
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Sadly, they wont ever leave. Look @ Red. It's the same few handful that will cling to their fake heroes with BiS until they pull the plug. Mos Eisley comes to mind.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:30 AM
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Dont be an idiot just add no variance like they had back on live problem solved
So the big targets can all be contested like Nobles or back in the day Traks with 300 people logged in ready to go. Nah.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:46 AM
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No variance is just about the worst idea there is. Leads to rampant poopsocking (ACTUAL poopsocking, it's way worse than what we got here, trust me), nonstop zone desyncs/crashes, bad times all around. Nothx.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:52 AM
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Meh really dont give a shit either way was just throwing an idea out there come play uthgard everyone let the neckbeards take over p99 3000 people on uthgard during prime is more than p99. dark age is alot of fun.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:27 AM
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And then when this 2500 + people start to break into their own guilds since there is a rotation, you now have 25 guilds with 100 in each, and that is being generous. 25 guilds, weekly spawns.. you see each spawn twice a year.
Well... This would be much more than what most already get. I bet all but 3 guilds would sign for this on the server.

I like the ideas of randomed weekly earthquake or the one of a 3,5days rotated with class.
I also would push the idea : don't touch anything as it is now. Just do this kind of weekend every quarter. 4 "private" earthquakes a year. Wouldn't deprive the top dogs too much, and make everyone happy. No need to "ban" A/A, just ask them for a 3-days-no-raid. Would that be much to ask ?
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:42 AM
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I'll just say this. If you want to argue that you are better at following the rules, thats great. You are also the reason the rules are in place. So don't expect a gold star and a thumbs up.

You want to say casuals did it with large massive turnouts. We did.

I saw a world where Infernus handled *anything* they were given.

I saw a world where kittens were fighting dragons.

I saw a world where pantless conga lines in TOV took place between pulls.

I saw a world where everyone managed to kill each other with Ice Burrowers, and then people got ressed instead of death threats and gruff.

I saw a world where dragons died and kids got bedtime stories in the same day.

I saw a world where guides and gms came in to hang out just to see what was going on.. Cuz their petition queues were light and they werent getting 5k word essays in purple text for the play-by-play of whom was infringing upon whom's pixel acquisition.

If anything should scare A / A, its the fact that people had a good time temporarily and great fun was had with the absolute bare minimum gm involvement.

< Spoiler Alert >It's Rogean's server.. And god forbid he wakes up some morning and decides 1 of 2 things.

1 . ) He would have to consider Forum Troll assertions that :Rustle and CSG if left alone would just strong arm and lawyerquest the same way A / A did over a period of time.. .... It has merit, but if your best argument is 'DUDE THEY MIGHT ONE DAY ACTUALLY BE AS TERRIBLE AS US' ....Then that is simply a laughably weak argument.

2 . ) He might say screw it and just pull the plug on the server.... Nilbog wanted to make classic eq. And he did. Game Over.

or hell, since it's RnF

3. ) Wake up one morning and just xfer both guilds in their entirety to Red99. Because the only thing better than FTE is LTE. And there is nothing more fun for competitive guilds than competing against a known entity thats spent the last few years cornering the market on pumice stones and root nets and the like, while farming every raid mob they've wanted. Divine Justice, one could argue. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:42 AM
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Naw. Detoxx and Cecily actually has the best suggestion. No indivudual mob vsriance just a weekly rumble with variance. Then one week in four have a casual gsmgbsng with AA back on their practice server as we know theyre goimg to be pulling all sorts of BS during the other 3 weeks so just give the staff a break amd have them am automatic "rest".
Pretty sure it was Breaken who first said that 25 pages or so ago.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:03 AM
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Set the earthquake on a 16 hour variance, and have a serverwide emote announcing the respawn an hour in advance. This gives all raiders time to batphone and mobilize. They can get to the mob they plan to kill first, see the competition at said mob, and decide if they want to compete against that raid or move to another.

You would have to require raids to stay at zone in though. Thinking specific for ToV, Kael races, but for CT, you would not zone in until the earthquake, and Skyshrine, you cannot start cothing until the earthquake, etc.
It's one solution. It doesn't address the real concern though:

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some, but left overs, they mobilize fast enough and can snap kill at a greater rate. we wouldnt be totally left out, but would have 1-2 mobs. max compared to 10
You guys don't get enough targets, and the ones you do are left overs.

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Other solutions:

Fix loot tables to drop classic number of items
Reduce spawn timers to 3.5 days, and implement a Class R / Class C system
This solves that problem, but I won't hold my breath for these changes. Here is the truth you overlook

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Dragons are left up constantly- the issue is, they are not the "right" ones.

Leaving things up happens each cycle of spawns, its called prioitizing

I dont think people realize how poweful locked encounters are when it comes to distributing
All of West ToV, Ikky, Sevalak, Jorlleag to name the ToV ones. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending what else is in window. Klandicar, Velk, Wuoshi, *Tunare* are all left up for hours, some even days. If you wanted mobs, these are free for the taking.

Rotations do not work.

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Only cheating morons would do this - ban cheating morons, problem solved.
Why would 25 guilds with 100 people in each be cheating? It doesn't take 100 people to kill these mobs. Each guild would be able to kill everything, and even if they couldn't, you are preaching for an all inclusive rotation. They would belong on it to at least attempt the encounters. So, 25 guilds on a rotation. Where do we sign up?
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:08 AM
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