Consistency in weapon DMG/DPS

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two-handers are borked right now, I highly recommend staying away from them.

I have a Craslith, Lance of Thunder, FD, ND, etc. I have tested their DPS output and it is hot garbage compared to what I get from my one-hander.

Try to get your hands on an Emerald Bastardsword of Purity or other nice one-hander until the two-hand upgrade.

Is this your experience on raid targets or higher end Velious mobs specifically? I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case on those types of mobs.

I've been mowing down some low blues in LGuk with a good 2 hander and it's been pretty great, but their AC isnt such a big deal. Seems like 1h for raids/Velious, 2h for lower AC stuff to me.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Vallanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this your experience on raid targets specifically or higher end Velious mobs? Wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. I've been mowing down some low blues in LGuk with a good 2 hander and it's been pretty great, but their AC isnt such a big deal.

That is my experience mostly with Velious mobs, including raid targets but also trash mobs in Kael, WL, etc.

The appeal of the two-hander is supposed to trading a slower weapon for significantly higher maximum damage per hit. The problem is the maximum hit is very weak against Velious mobs because like you said, they have too much AC.

With my one-hander I'm getting similar average damage per hit vs Velious mobs, but with a much better delay, and it's a lot less painful when I miss a swing.

[fash]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't true. Tested.

I'm curious how you tested this and what you observed. I've never seen my offhand swing without the mainhand. It seems like the dual wield check occurs only when your mainhand swings.

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious how you tested this and what you observed. I've never seen my offhand swing without the mainhand. It seems like the dual wield check occurs only when your mainhand swings.

Put a slow weapon primary and a fast weapon offhand.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious how you tested this and what you observed. I've never seen my offhand swing without the mainhand. It seems like the dual wield check occurs only when your mainhand swings.

It's pretty obvious when you use a secondary with like half the delay of your primary.

[Naethyn]

Attack is everything for dps so keep in mind that buffs (avatar) and aura of battle are huge. For a warrior I've found that a 2h will out dps dw if precision disc is running. A lower delay 2h will also trigger triple attack more often. Crippling blows with a faster delay 2h will also occur more often with hardly any loss in damage. Without precision running the blue warrior epic offhand's attack stat will provide more dps than a better ratio offhand. A warrior can out dps any other class with precision and crippling blows for velious content.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious how you tested this and what you observed. I've never seen my offhand swing without the mainhand. It seems like the dual wield check occurs only when your mainhand swings.

If that is your supposition then you would never expect to see your offhand swing more than 78% the times of your mainhand irrespective of delays. As a monk it is simple to test. SoS in mainhand, empty offhand (provided you have epic). Over a 45 second fight you should see no more than 16 swings from your offhand, not including double attacks.

just throw out one of each offhand attack that has a duplicate or near 0 difference time entry in your log ^^

[fash]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that is your supposition then you would never expect to see your offhand swing more than 78% the times of your mainhand irrespective of delays. As a monk it is simple to test. SoS in mainhand, empty offhand (provided you have epic). Over a 45 second fight you should see no more than 16 swings from your offhand, not including double attacks.

just throw out one of each offhand attack that has a duplicate or near 0 difference time entry in your log ^^

Thanks. My problem is I only have 1 1h weapon + fists to test on my melee character atm. Once I get more gear, I'll test it more thoroughly. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Donruss]

I have a Moss covered twig to push casters with. It is offhand only and fires much more frequently then epic main hand.

[Vallanor]

I managed to snag a 24/22 1hs this past weekend, so I'll do some actual parsing on old world mobs with low AC and some Velious crap with boatloads of AC and see how it shakes out.