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Old 07-23-2016, 06:51 PM
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Jarnauga exited this debate faster than the kristallnacht.

I would too after being confronted with applicable social reasons to own a firearm outside of his self-defense argument and being fingered as potential persona non grata. But maybe he's just taking a breather. The French tire quickly.
Jarnauga was on the phone with his girlfriend ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

a 9mm Glock was the weapon used in munich, 10 dead. Don't tell me it's not made for killing when it's used by a 18 year old guy who has never fired any gun before.

i'm waiting for y'all wannabe nazis to take an empty building in oregon and convince yourself y'all are resisting the government oppresion.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:06 PM
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Jarn, weren't the Nazis pro gun control? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And your argument that because a gun was effective at killing a lot of people by someone without training to use it is not a good one. The guys who killed thousands with a couple of airplanes on 9/11 didn't have much training in piloting airplanes, but they used them to incredibly deadly effect. Does that mean that passenger planes are built for killing?

Guns can kill, but it's not their only constructive use. Even the military have historically preferred to wound rather than kill, right? Wounding an enemy is -1 fighter and -X more people who are dragging him to safety, caring for him, etc. A dead enemy is just -1 fighter. And with self-defense it is about protecting yourself/your family/whatever, not about killing. If someone dies, so be it, they made their bed and they'll lay in it. But the goal isn't to kill, the goal is to stop.

It's asinine of you to try to compare the use of firearms for self defense to the fucking retard shooting up a mall. His gun didn't shoot anyone, HE did.


But I guess we could just make guns illegal right. That'll get them at least some of them off the streets right? Just like the US did with illegal drugs? Lol.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:14 PM
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That is a common myth actually. the (((Wiemar Republic))) limited firearm ownership after ww1. Hitler greatly increased firearm ownership for German citizens. Only jews and some other subversives were prevented from owning guns.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:15 PM
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Jarnauga was on the phone with his girlfriend ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

a 9mm Glock was the weapon used in munich, 10 dead. Don't tell me it's not made for killing when it's used by a 18 year old guy who has never fired any gun before.

i'm waiting for y'all wannabe nazis to take an empty building in oregon and convince yourself y'all are resisting the government oppresion.
I've never stabbed anyone with a knife before. I've never blown up someone with a pressure cooker bomb before. guess those are also made for killing? Just bow out, and shut the fuck up because you are not going to win nor convince anyone of your pathetic apologist plight.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:16 PM
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The only goal of a firearm is to kill, period. You can try to prettify by saying "defend myself" instead of kill, but that's exactly the same thing.
Obviously not true: a gun is a substantial deterrent even without being used.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:18 PM
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Obviously not true: a gun is a substantial deterrent even without being used.
It's pointless arguing with that moron. To him guns = OMG BAD EWWW *cries* and nothing else. He's been conditioned to think that way.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:19 PM
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Jarn, weren't the Nazis pro gun control? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

You can do better, Tecmos
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:19 PM
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Obviously not true: a gun is a substantial deterrent even without being used.
^When I see kids makin trouble in the neighborhood, I sit on my porch with a pitcher of iced tea shooting squirrels with a shotgun.

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Old 07-23-2016, 07:25 PM
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guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

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You missed it.

2nd amendment can only be altered by another amendment to the US constitution. Guns are going to stay legal in the US until that happens. In the mean time, there's a certain amount of responsibility that comes with having the freedom to posess and use a firearm that is the duty of the user to understand and operate within the framework of the applicable laws. One person cannot logically be the defining example of a society (basic generalization fallacy).
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:28 PM
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guilty by association ..?

Hitler was vegan, does that make all vegan blood-thirsty antisemites ?

You can do better, Tecmos
i should add that nazis were bad not because they were pro gun control (i dont even know if they were and i dont really care), but because they were putting all their issues, problem, and misery on the back on one specific group: the jews. Who would do that in the 21st century, am i right ..?
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