Dos the Left Hate Pride?

[Nihilist_santa]

So if I post a definition from an older dictionary can I declare premature victory as well?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The study I mentioned proved that wrong. They purposely tried to make a male believe he was female. They used role play , surgery, and other methods and the child fell back on his biological identity. Therefore your surroundings ,cultural upbringing etc are not what determines gender.

Do you understand science? Or statistics? Or even my point?

First of all your study:

Its no where even close to enough to be making the logical leaps you are. 1 case study on one person only describes what happened in one person. The sample size is entirely too small. Secondly, if anything all that study does, if it was better science, is goes to enhance my point, that gender is in the brain. You don't need a penis to have gender... which is what I was saying just a couple posts ago.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except I used your standard to demonstrate how ill-informed you are. Sorry, but I won [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, except you didn't. Go pull the definitions for male, female and man/woman. The, apply that understanding to the definition of gender. You will see that man is defined as an adult human male and woman is defined as an adult human female. And you will see that male and female are defined as I have defined them (or closely). There is no reference to gender in either. And if gender is a social construct the. It is even less relevant to the terms man/woman.

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also do you have anything to support this?

Nope.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if I post a definition from an older dictionary can I declare premature victory as well?

Sure I'll just continue to laugh at your idiocy for very obvious reasons.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you understand science? Or statistics? Or even my point?

First of all your study:

Its no where even close to enough to be making the logical leaps you are. 1 case study on one person only describes what happened in one person. The sample size is entirely too small. Secondly, if anything all that study does, if it was better science, is goes to enhance my point, that gender is in the brain. You don't need a penis to have gender... which is what I was saying just a couple posts ago.

That study is called facts friend. I recall you seem to like facts but here you are arguing against facts. I think you just want to be right and have no interest in an honest discussion. Laugh all you want man if it makes you feel better that no one is agreeing with you.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, except you didn't. Go pull the definitions for male, female and man/woman. The, apply that understanding to the definition of gender. You will see that man is defined as an adult human male and woman is defined as an adult human female. And you will see that male and female are defined as I have defined them (or closely). There is no reference to gender in either. And if gender is a social construct the. It is even less relevant to the terms man/woman.

Nope.

I know its embarrassing to be refuted so easily on your own standard of evidence but the description in the dictionary must be taken in whole form. You don't get to cherry pick to support your premature conclusions.

The purpose of a dictionary is to DEFINE a word, you don't get to ignore pieces of the definition at your convenience.

typically used with reference to social or cultural differences rather than biological ones.


Gender: gen·der
ˈjendər/Submit
noun
1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).


Sex: sex
seks/Submit
noun
2.
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

In case you were wondering Reproduction is a biological function.


Sorry for your pride.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you understand science? Or statistics? Or even my point?

First of all your study:

Its no where even close to enough to be making the logical leaps you are. 1 case study on one person only describes what happened in one person. The sample size is entirely too small. Secondly, if anything all that study does, if it was better science, is goes to enhance my point, that gender is in the brain. You don't need a penis to have gender... which is what I was saying just a couple posts ago.

But he did have a penis it was just removed and he never knew about that during the study. Come on man they teach this case in real schools. I know when you printed out your diploma from the University of Phoenix Online you rushed here to show everyone how smart you are but this is a well known case. It is at the crux of the nature/nurture issue and because of ethics regulations we likely wont get anything similar for awhile until all of these forced trans kids delaying puberty start offing themselves.

[maskedmelon]

Also Alarti,

From page 12:

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The delusion comes from confusion of sex, whether gender can be separated from it or not. Man/woman are clearly defined terms based on sex.

I think you've been sticking to the gender-sex argument because that is more ambiguous and why I abandoned it, to clarify the issue at hand: male/female, man/woman.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know its embarrassing to be refuted so easily on your own standard of evidence but the description in the dictionary must be taken in whole form. You don't get to cherry pick to support your premature conclusions.

The purpose of a dictionary is to DEFINE a word, you don't get to ignore pieces of the definition at your convenience.

typically used with reference to social or cultural differences rather than biological ones.


Gender: gen·der
ˈjendər/Submit
noun
1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).


Sex: sex
seks/Submit
noun
2.
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

In case you were wondering Reproduction is a biological function.


Sorry for your pride.

Lol, see above.

[Nihilist_santa]

Allarharti plays it safe. He has no original thoughts. All of his shit is regurgitated based on what is politically and culturally safe to repeat.

ETA: Which is why he is getting destroyed here. He is sticking to a line he doesnt understand so he cant properly defend. Bitches about facts but when presented with real science dismisses it as not conclusive enough for him/her.