Are you kidding me?

[Signal]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It smells like Aftermath in here. Did this clown seriously just imply that Crown of Rile's "intended use" was a tool to gain an edge over shitty casual guilds that haven't cleared VP for 5 years in footraces for FTE of Velious raid targets?

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The intended use of a Crown of Rile in classic was to refill the endurance bar. You could run and jump to your hearts content. You sir smell like a BDA member who simply can't grasp the concept of working for something and earning it. You guys are the new age of America. Whine until you get your way because if you whine loud and long enough things will get handed to you. Right ?

[Signal]

Also show us these members who have been here 5+ years and raided VP the entire time. They are rare on this server. 85% or more of Aftermath and Awakened doesn't meet that criteria you set forth. Their raiding of VP probably only consists mostly of the last 2 to 2 and a half years. With the last 9 months of that limited because of Velious. The number of active players with a Crown of Rile that race in these races isn't that high I would wager. Your guild honestly would only need 2 or 3 to be on equal footing. But yeah let's ban progression and just make everything equal. Because ya know. Working for things is bad.

[Cecily]

It's cute. You're trying sooo hard to make the argument for Crown of Rile = necessary P99 progression. As someone who has a crown, it's not. At all. It's a toy.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's cute. You're trying sooo hard to make the argument for Crown of Rile = necessary P99 progression. As someone who has a crown, it's not. At all. It's a toy.

You are pretty dense if you think that is all a Crown of Rile ever was on live. It literally makes life easier for any pulling class in Everquest. I tend to forget you are just a rogue that sits in camp for Dragons though. So you likely wouldn't understand. I think it's cute that you are trying to argue otherwise honestly. It does show your lack of knowledge about Everquest though.

[Cecily]

I don't appreciate the personal attacks just because you have a shitty argument.

[Mistle]

I don't think I've ever seen someone as afraid of being put on equal footing as other people as Signal is. It's not just worry, it's outright fear.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't appreciate the personal attacks just because you have a shitty argument.

Well when your argument is the shitty part of the discussion expect to be called dense. What can I tell ya besides that ? When it is obvious you have no real understanding of the value of the item in question and you try to undermine the value of that item to prove a point. Your argument is dense. Ask any Monk who has pulled a Dragon/mob while having this item what they use it for. It's to move faster to get away from the mob via unlimited jumps.

So yeah dunno what to say to you. I call you dense because you moved your fingers and typed out something dense. Try better next time ?

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't appreciate the personal attacks just because you have a shitty argument.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think I've ever seen someone as afraid of being put on equal footing as other people as Signal is. It's not just worry, it's outright fear.

Yeah, fear is what it is. In reality that isn't the case at all. People have raided on this server and earned their items by raiding on this server under rulesets condoned by GM's. They put forth time and effort and now smaller guilds who do not want to put in effort wants everything these raiders have earned taken away from them so they can compete.

In reality I think the proper comment here is. "I don't think I have ever seen a group of people as afraid of work and progression as that of the Casual guilds". Seriously that is the truth here. You guys literally will be given something and demand more. Every single time. Anything that requires work and effort you guys want removed from the picture.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The intended use of a Crown of Rile in classic was to refill the endurance bar. You could run and jump to your hearts content. You sir smell like a BDA member who simply can't grasp the concept of working for something and earning it. You guys are the new age of America. Whine until you get your way because if you whine loud and long enough things will get handed to you. Right ?

Do you ever stop and listen to the things you say? Cause I'm almost embarrassed for you at this point. Do you think ANYONE on the original EQ dev team thought to themselves "We need to make an item that will allow hardcore neckbeards to jump indefinitely so they can win FTE footraces and show those casual scum who's boss til they go farm VP themselves for 5 years so they can 'earn it'" you're quite literally out of your mind if that's honestly what you think. But we all know that's not really what you think it's just a dumb argument you made to support your dumb position. Let me ask you this. Do you REALLY think the average A/A member puts in significantly more "work" to "earn" their pixels than the average BDA or Europa or Anonymous member? For those that don't know here's a day in the life of the average raider in ANY (not just a/a) raid guild on P99.

1: Carry x y z 'required' consumables that 1/2 the raid doesn't bother to get or keep charged

2: "Park" your character wherever /get or website tells you to for upcoming dragon

3: Log in when you receive a batphone

4: Perform your classes (almost always) extremely easy role

5: Collect DKP/Pixels

6: Go back to step 2 rinse/repeat

This isn't rocket science. Almost all of the "hard" work is carried out by a super small group of people at the top of each guild. I put "hard" in quotes cause I'm not really sure you can call staring at a screen waiting for a mob to pop for 16 hrs or spam clicking a crown of rile to run to a mob faster "hard" but I'll let that slide. The vast majority of every raider on this server just logs in and hits their ch macro or backstab button for a while then logs off. You're not better than me cause the core neckbeard group in your guild neckbearded harder than the core neckbeard group in my guild. You didn't "earn" something that I didn't because when you get a batphone and log in to do exactly what everyone else does your guild tag happens to be Aftermath. You also didn't "earn" the right to have a significant advantage in all Velious footraces cause you belong to one of 2 guilds that had a monopoly on Veeshan's Peak for 5 years.

Get real