New ToV Racing Rules

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not only do they have to change the rules for your guild they also have to make sure to keep the mobs spawning on the days that best suit you?

Exactly man, that's exactly what I meant. You are great at reading context.

[xexbis0]

Come on Big V. Go late tomorrow. Let's see if those racers balk at going for targets with only 3 hours left in window. Let those stars align.

Side storyline:

- Will Awakened or Aftermath plop racers at big V spawn if dragons are up that casuals can't get to and no FTE message went out?

Stay tuned for Episode 2 of As the Door Opens and Closes and Opens and Closes

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly man, that's exactly what I meant. You are great at reading context.

That's how I read it also.

The only difference is if you actually look at the numbers I think BDA and the other "casual guilds" would be shocked or not shocked (since it was pointed out our DKP, and RA% is public information) but the majority of Aftermath full members raid with 40-50% Raid Attendance. If I were to go deeper and compare the percentages to when BDA and the other "casual guilds" raid we really would be in the same boat. The 3AM - 7AM EST to the 10AM to 3PM EST raid times are normally hovering around the 40s mark with about 5-7 people tracking around these times.

I'd rather play on the side of the 4% of the server that likes to kill everything and push the limits of content when I log on to this server when I am not able to. That is the difference between you an I.

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how I read it also.

The only difference is if you actually look at the numbers I think BDA and the other "casual guilds" would be shocked or not shocked (since it was pointed out our DKP, and RA% is public information) but the majority of Aftermath full members raid with 40-50% Raid Attendance. If I were to go deeper and compare the percentages to when BDA and the other "casual guilds" raid we really would be in the same boat. The 3AM - 7AM EST to the 10AM to 3PM EST raid times are normally hovering around the 40s mark with about 5-7 people tracking around these times.

I'd rather play on the side of the 4% of the server that likes to kill everything and push the limits of content when I log on to this server when I am not able to. That is the difference between you an I.

our prime time numbers are near the 40's if we are lucky. All guilds are carried by those willing to "do the work" that A/A and the like have set as the precedent. you can have 100 online and it doesn't really matter if you don't have a core 20 people willing to track/race at all hours. Dispersing the weight is a skill set, and a logistical feat for any guild. The only thing that differentiates the guild tiers at this point and their "quality" as a guild is how hard that core crew are willing to go to secure the mobs for the rest of the raid force to just log in and collect lewt. Almost any of us could kill a majority of north, and if not on the first try would be able to with experience and a learning curve. It goes back to the inherit flaw in the system, we play a different game. We are here for a classic experience with some progression and hopefully seeing some dargunz and giants. Everyone below A&A talk together frequently, share, and try to create a healthy environment. I don't want free pixels, but for the sake of the server those willing to stoop to the lowest levels of RL/EQ balance should not set the precedent.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather play on the side of the 4% of the server that likes to kill everything and push the limits of content when I log on to this server when I am not able to. That is the difference between you an I.

No, the real difference is that if casual raiders were given rules that allowed them realistic shots, your guild and the other "A" would fall apart completely within a month, while the casual guilds would keep on keeping on, because they dont define themselves as 'the 4%' like you just did, and as functioning adults are literally aghast that there are really people who do, and what they put up with to be there...

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our prime time numbers are near the 40's if we are lucky. All guilds are carried by those willing to "do the work" that A/A and the like have set as the precedent. you can have 100 online and it doesn't really matter if you don't have a core 20 people willing to track/race at all hours. Dispersing the weight is a skill set, and a logistical feat for any guild. The only thing that differentiates the guild tiers at this point and their "quality" as a guild is how hard that core crew are willing to go to secure the mobs for the rest of the raid force to just log in and collect lewt. Almost any of us could kill a majority of north, and if not on the first try would be able to with experience and a learning curve. It goes back to the inherit flaw in the system, we play a different game. We are here for a classic experience with some progression and hopefully seeing some dargunz and giants. Everyone below A&A talk together frequently, share, and try to create a healthy environment. I don't want free pixels, but for the sake of the server those willing to stoop to the lowest levels of RL/EQ balance should not set the precedent.

Is this really true?

Wouldn't there still be a rotation if this were accurate?

[Alenon]

It was just as much of a shitshow on live, at least on bristlebane. And if they had the ability to batphone then I'm sure they would have. The difference was continuous expansions allowing all guilds to progress. So while the tier 1 guilds were plowing through ssra and vt, we were doing velious and minor luclin mobs. While they were farming time we were just hitting elementals. You could be casual and still feel like you're progressing even if at a lower tier

[khysanth]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but for the sake of the server those willing to stoop to the lowest levels of RL/EQ balance should not set the precedent.

I've got some historically bad news for you.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this really true?

Wouldn't there still be a rotation if this were accurate?

There can't be a rotation if the top 2 guilds don't abide by it.

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There can't be a rotation if the top 2 guilds don't abide by it.

Ohhhhh so that's why the rotation fell apart. Thanks for the clarification! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]