Common Man's ToV Raid Scene

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until every guild on the server wants to get on those rotations [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a fan of rotations as well but also know, and have seen how those get taken advantage of and go to pot too.

#bringbackblackouthours

Basically yes.

The way things are guilds mob counts wouldn't shift much if we just did a 50/50 split.

But once CSG and BDA ask to be on the rotation and that drops to 25%, there will be salt.

Either the same thing from Class R will happen "You must slay Sontalak for your ToV week" and "you must slay AoW for your Kael week", ridiculous milestones will be put up to farm much easier mobs in an attempt to keep people out. Or people will say F this we are willing to put in the time, back to the big gay pile of CotHQuest.

The reason I stress GM intervention is, let's say we make an agreement like Fifield proposes, then one guild breaks it. What happens? There's no server rule that can punish them, therefore there is no deterrent to breaking the agreements. People can get pretty crazy over a single mobs pixels and have broken agreements for less.

I've tried to PM Sirken to set up a chat between guilds with him present, he seems to like hanging out on his stream, hell I'll go on your stream if you want to talk about this with other guild leaderships and make something change. But he hasn't responded. In fairness I'm sure there's better ways of getting ahold of him than PM.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hell I'll go on your stream if you want to talk about this with other guild leaderships and make something change. But he hasn't responded. In fairness I'm sure there's better ways of getting ahold of him than PM.

WTB Dald on Sirken stream next week

[Fifield]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

not a bad choice for dinner tonight.....

[Spyder73]

I in no way have any inside knowledge or speak for Asgard, but taking a shot in the dark here...I doubt Asgard/Forsaken would ever make any kind of deals with the turn coat cuck lords in Taken. Its a Braveheart situation where Longshanks is trying to make a deal with William Wallace...not going to happen. You p!ssed in the koolaid and now complain that you're thirsty. Cowboy up and take a sip, it will help wash down the taste of the sh!t sandwich you are currently eating.

Taken and BDA are of the same ilk and universally frowned upon in many circles of the raiding community, so a "no peace" mentality will probably prevail for the foreseeable future in my humble opinion.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good god all they would talk about is chipolte

I will not entirely rule this out.

Though I could rant about not classic things for an hour also.

[Elmarnieh]

Mmm post yoga chipotle tonight...

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I in no way have any inside knowledge or speak for Asgard, but taking a shot in the dark here...I doubt Asgard/Forsaken would ever make any kind of deals with the turn coat cuck lords in Taken. Its a Braveheart situation where Longshanks is trying to make a deal with William Wallace...not going to happen. You p!ssed in the koolaid and now complain that you're thirsty. Cowboy up and take a sip, it will help wash down the taste of the sh!t sandwich you are currently eating.

Taken and BDA are of the same ilk and universally frowned upon in many circles of the raiding community, so a "no peace" mentality will probably prevail for the foreseeable future in my humble opinion.

Right a guild that never had a raiding ban on them is someone you can't trust.

The human psyche creates such interesting distortions of reality.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right a guild that never had a raiding ban on them is someone you can't trust.

The human psyche creates such interesting distortions of reality.

Quick history lesson from my experiences since 2014...

It's not so much about trust as it is "Do unto other as you want done unto you". I can only speak from personal experience, but BDA and Taken were both instrumental (IE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE) for the dismantling of the class rotation system because they had zerg numbers and were getting annoyed by guilds like Asgard, Omni, and Azure Guard who wanted to kill dragons under the CASUAL class rotation. Taken and BDA both refused to move up and compete with IB and TMO. Asgard decides enough of this sh!t and joins class C because there's only like 2 guilds actually competing…We start getting kills!

So Asgard decides we are going to step it up and compete at the highest level possible in Velious to start off – nToV...not going to lie, times were tough at first, we were too small and the zergs were too big. So we made a few alliances so that we could live normal lives and also get loot. Taken joins us only to desert the alliance and join the competition in hopes of crushing us and monopolizing ToV 100%. Funny thing happens though, this only galvanized the Asgard alliance and we started kicking the sh!t out Taken and Rampage on a weekly basis. So now its clear that Taken made ANOTHER bad move, and now that Rampage is gone talks of a rotation are starting again.

Seems to be a situation of a guy picking a fight, getting his sh!t pushed in, and then calling for a truce and saying the other guy is a bully.

Excuse me when I say “blow it out your ass” to any Taken member who thinks they are not the problem with the current raid scene.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"no peace" mentality

"No peace with the shadow." -Shaere <Taken>