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View Poll Results: Would you be interested in “fair” pvp?
Yes 26 40.63%
No 10 15.63%
I will grief 22 34.38%
Unsure – leaning towards yes if the numbers are there 6 9.38%
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:08 AM
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Anyone who hasn't answered "I will grief" is obviously a noob and has never pvpd b4.
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:18 AM
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Dunno bros

compare gasoline and riding

gear cant be that much different can it?

Whole different league of ability
True that there are players who are very good at the game and those less good, but overall though I think most play EQ for the challenges it offers.

Currently most of that challenge is gone for the bulk of the server.


Overwhelming content and pvp with massive numbers and/or large gear advantage to the point where there really isn't much challenge anymore is pretty boring and people are leaving.

I think that the spirit of the thread is that it is becoming more difficult to find fun or challening engagements. Opinions vary as to why, but all pretty much end up the same.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:18 PM
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True that there are players who are very good at the game and those less good, but overall though I think most play EQ for the challenges it offers.

Currently most of that challenge is gone for the bulk of the server.
I agree with this. It's one of many reasons I'd be on favor of yearly resets.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:21 PM
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:33 PM
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I agree with this. It's one of many reasons I'd be on favor of yearly resets.
Do yearly resets and people will just stop coming back. I invest maybe 2-3 hours a day to playing. All on my time and when I feel like logging in. Other people play 10+ hours a day farming, raiding and responding to batphones. Resetting the server fucks over all the people who actually put time into the game to get where they are at.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:53 PM
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Do yearly resets and people will just stop coming back. I invest maybe 2-3 hours a day to playing. All on my time and when I feel like logging in. Other people play 10+ hours a day farming, raiding and responding to batphones. Resetting the server fucks over all the people who actually put time into the game to get where they are at.
Only if there are no rewards for people who completed major objectives. For example, a sample reset system:
  • Reset every year, in accordance with the classic timeline.
  • Rewards for server firsts. If you're part of the first raid to down X target, you get a unique item (such as da oogly stick) which carries over after the reset.
  • Titles for people who have X PvP kills, which carry over.

And so on. Rogean said he'd never do resets, but he also said we'd have a classic server. This server's mechanics aren't classic; YT and the EXP boost are just two obvious examples of why.

And people like you, who think everyone will just quit if the server is reset, don't understand why people play here in the first place. There are basically four major motivations: get the best gear, get PvP kills, be part of the p1999 community, or be the first to do something.

Resets don't stop people from doing any of those things, and actually make the journey more meaningful since it's fresh every time. In fact, the fourth motivation is only possible with resets, since almost everything has already been done. If you start here now, having a fungi or AoN or an epic doesn't mean anything because there are thousands floating around. People who've been here a while have hundreds of thousands of Plat and multiple fully geared toons.

On live, seeing an epic or a BiS was a big deal, because there weren't many. It gave new players something to strive towards. Reset, and those things become meaningful again.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:58 PM
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It is basically the choice between keeping your word (no wipes, ever) and dealing with the slow death of the server, or going back on your word, pissing a lot of people off and losing credibility but potentially rebuilding the server to a sustainable state. There is a chance the server is even more dead 3 months after the wipe. There is a chance it thrives on a standard timeline. There is even a chance that if left alone the population stabilizes in a way that makes the server sustainable and also interesting - even if that is very unlikely.

In the end, I tend to believe what will happen is the scenario that requires the least involvement of staff. In this case, its just leave the server alone to die in agony.
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:09 PM
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:32 PM
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you played on Ayonae Ro too?
Yes, theres a bunch of Loyal Servants of Ayonae Ro I've helped cross over to EQ Emu PvP.

Before PRAS there was 'AYRO'
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:34 PM
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Cyclical server wipes/reset are the answer -- I've been saying this for years now.

Keep the old server... and once the cyclical server phases out, move those characters to the non "ladder" server. You pixel cry babies won't lose your loots this way.
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