Shadows of Luclin server

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your gif is implying you do. But really just don't. Your responses make that clear with your ass backwards idea that waiting 2-5 min for the pok book to respond to me is the same as dealing with a person. They're not even close to similar let alone the same thing.

You're clueless on the matter, obviously.

Explain to me how dealing with an avg DAP porter is any different than if you had to type "/t pokbook can u port me to xyz?" my point pretty much this whole time has been that you're HEAVILY exaggerating the amount of "interaction" involved in the typical port transaction on P99 blue. If you want to argue that like 1% of the time something else happens with DAP that wouldn't happen with an automated port system then so be it. But for some reason you're acting like every time you get a port on P99 its some magical social experience that makes or breaks whether or not this game is any fun at all. I think that's absolutely absurd.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JCR, did you play a porting class back when Luclin came out? Do you play a porting class now?

I was young in classic EQ but I played with my dad who mained a Druid. Very often played his char and did a lot of porting. Lost a bit of profit off the porting business when PoP came out but I still think it was overall better for the game. I don't regularly play a porting class on P99 but I have played them and I buy DAP ports pretty much daily (If not 3-4 of them)

I feel like I have sufficient experience to comment on the matter.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to me how dealing with an avg DAP porter is any different than if you had to type "/t pokbook can u port me to xyz?" my point pretty much this whole time has been that you're HEAVILY exaggerating the amount of "interaction" involved in the typical port transaction on P99 blue. If you want to argue that like 1% of the time something else happens with DAP that wouldn't happen with an automated port system then so be it. But for some reason you're acting like every time you get a port on P99 its some magical social experience that makes or breaks whether or not this game is any fun at all. I think that's absolutely absurd.

Its a point I've tried to make for a long time. I personally (not to put words into the quoted), would argue much of the same thing when it comes to the bazaar. The interaction level a lot of time is very low. Meanwhile, there was still bartering amongst regular traders in the bazaar.

I feel like when it comes to this sentimental attachment to EC and Druid ports, people have bloated the real impact these changes had on the game. Most of what makes EQ the way it is has to do with groups and raids being required for most the content, combined with a non-instanced shared world.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to me how dealing with an avg DAP porter is any different than if you had to type "/t pokbook can u port me to xyz?" my point pretty much this whole time has been that you're HEAVILY exaggerating the amount of "interaction" involved in the typical port transaction on P99 blue. If you want to argue that like 1% of the time something else happens with DAP that wouldn't happen with an automated port system then so be it. But for some reason you're acting like every time you get a port on P99 its some magical social experience that makes or breaks whether or not this game is any fun at all. I think that's absolutely absurd.

It certainly would be, if anyone was acting that way.

EverQuest is a game about the random stuff that happens at the margins. The core gameplay is fairly dull. You find mobs, you pull them, you kill them.

Unusual events are what cause the magic. Those unusual events are caused by player interactions. Porters are an example of a player interaction that rarely goes weird, but can occasionally. They generate stories, which generate enjoyment that goes above and beyond the core gameplay.

The possibility of that happening, although small, is not "statistically insignificant" to those who care about it. We hear stories of porting gone weird all the time. Sometimes we're even the ones telling those stories. The chance of that is very small, but it drops to 0 if you introduce an automated system. It isn't by any stretch of the imagination the only reason not to go to Luclin/PoP, of course, so don't act like it is. It's just *a* reason.

[Hastley]

Lol Evia claiming social interaction in video game. Get laid fuckwit. Killing grummus in plane of disease > dealing with socially retarded nerds "interaction" during the 5 min port process.

[Hastley]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It certainly would be, if anyone was acting that way.

EverQuest is a game about the random stuff that happens at the margins. The core gameplay is fairly dull. You find mobs, you pull them, you kill them.

Unusual events are what cause the magic. Those unusual events are caused by player interactions. Porters are an example of a player interaction that rarely goes weird, but can occasionally. They generate stories, which generate enjoyment that goes above and beyond the core gameplay.

The possibility of that happening, although small, is not "statistically insignificant" to those who care about it. We hear stories of porting gone weird all the time. Sometimes we're even the ones telling those stories. The chance of that is very small, but it drops to 0 if you introduce an automated system. It isn't by any stretch of the imagination the only reason not to go to Luclin/PoP, of course, so don't act like it is. It's just *a* reason.

Everquest is a game about character development regardless of your perverse viewpoint of what it should be. Talking to people during ports =\= the vision.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a point I've tried to make for a long time. I personally (not to put words into the quoted), would argue much of the same thing when it comes to the bazaar. The interaction level a lot of time is very low. Meanwhile, there was still bartering amongst regular traders in the bazaar.

I feel like when it comes to this sentimental attachment to EC and Druid ports, people have bloated the real impact these changes had on the game. Most of what makes EQ the way it is has to do with groups and raids being required for most the content, combined with a non-instanced shared world.

You... You get it. I've been saying this for years and all I get is blue-faced nerds screaming at me about how amazing having to ask for a port or spam an EC macro is.

[jcr4990]

I just got my Rog alt ported 5 min ago. Here's how it went down.

/ all dial
/t Druid Can I snag a ride LS to GD please?
Druid replies "Sure"
47 seconds later he appears at LS rings
I give him 50pp and hit follow when he invites me
~30 sec later I land in GD
/t Druid Thanks a lot!
Druid replies "Yw GL"

You're right guys. This is the magic of Everquest right here. Game would suck without this amazing interaction.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just got my Rog alt ported 5 min ago. Here's how it went down.

/ all dial
/t Druid Can I snag a ride LS to GD please?
Druid replies "Sure"
47 seconds later he appears at LS rings
I give him 50pp and hit follow when he invites me
~30 sec later I land in GD
/t Druid Thanks a lot!
Druid replies "Yw GL"

You're right guys. This is the magic of Everquest right here. Game would suck without this amazing interaction.

you should keep harping on this, it gives the impression you are really listening to people who don't share your opinion

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just got my Rog alt ported 5 min ago. Here's how it went down.

/ all dial
/t Druid Can I snag a ride LS to GD please?
Druid replies "Sure"
47 seconds later he appears at LS rings
I give him 50pp and hit follow when he invites me
~30 sec later I land in GD
/t Druid Thanks a lot!
Druid replies "Yw GL"

You're right guys. This is the magic of Everquest right here. Game would suck without this amazing interaction.

This is how factories are moved from here to mexico.