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Old 02-02-2016, 02:18 PM
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You can bind 2 keys to any macro. You can also choose to mouse click the clicky at the same time. You can bind multiple things to one key. In the sit on spawn days in VP as a Monk I had a Brazier pet(/pet attack macro), /target macro, a clicky, and target npc all bound to 2 keys. DA idol and discs were bound to keys right next to it. My window spam was 4 times worse than what you saw in that fraps and I can guarantee you I didn't use anything that automated it.
How about you fraps yourself doing it. As I said, they might unban Omnia. I don't pretend to be an FTE jav spam master though, my attention span is way too short.

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There is just no possible way that Hoku and Cal can start their casting spell graphic in unison 1/4 seconds before any of us even moved.
I don't think you understand how autofire works. I didn't bother to download the fraps and step through them frame by frame, but if your claim is true then it couldn't be autofire, which is incapable of generating a 1/4 second lead time (unless your guild, collectively, was hitting keys less than 4x per second, which seems very unlikely).

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I lost a lot of respect for you guys when I found out this thought actually inhabited your collective brains.
I mean, its impossible to prove intent, what exactly were you doing attacking it for 20 seconds?
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:19 PM
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I was around 50/50 with that technique. /shrug

Again it is down to ping and timing unless something outside the game mechanics is being used. No one person in those situations can consistently win. You want as many button pushes as possible to time when the mob spawns. The more you have and the more ways you can aggro the mob the better chance you have. Pets won a lot of FTE's in VP.
You're only using half the buttons you could be pressing.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:26 PM
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Wait, THIS is the vaunted Moosejaw fraps that you guys have been talking about? It looks like every noble engage ever. You can see about 5-10 of your players attack instantly as well. So Rampage had a 25-30% chance based on numbers alone, and Hokushin and Cal both live in the north east (very low ping) and have a few FTE tricks that you may not know about. I mean, they COULD have been autofiring but the only thing that fraps really proves is that Forsaken/Asgard tried to get Cekenar into summoning range by malleting him and then attacking him for 20 seconds.

The Detoxx autofire fraps aren't 100% clear either, IMO, but you can see that he fills two chatboxes with spam in less than a second. That simply isn't possible with keyboard spamming. Try it yourself.

Anyway, I tried for 2 years to get the GMs to implement a respawn system rather than FTE/COH idiocy and failed. I believe Sirken was in favor but Rogean didn't want to give up control. It would make raiding on this server WAY more fun, but it's just not going to happen.
1. Slow it down to .25x
2. 25 to 30% chance? Lol you're delusional. 50 FA, 2 Rampage on that spawn point.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:27 PM
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When are all you Rampage assholes gonna shut up and leave? You already pissed in the pool.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:27 PM
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I thought Rampage all got butthurt and quit, why are you all still posting?
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:29 PM
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You're only using half the buttons you could be pressing.
Yeah. Still doesn't matter. I am still getting the same amount of inputs of anyone else spamming keys. That is where ping comes into play. A players ability to hit the keys can only go so fast. Unless of course you are using automation. Which takes us in a circle.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:34 PM
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I mean, its impossible to prove intent, what exactly were you doing attacking it for 20 seconds?
I remember trying to explain in vent/ts how to bind 2 commands (clicky,target) to a single keyboard stroke, and spam that. It doesn't mean everybody took the advice. The method most people casually attempted was turn auto attack on and spam nearest target.

20 seconds is extreme. More like 3-4 seconds. There was so much text spam that people who used the auto attack method probably didn't see that Cal got FTE and just started wacking the dragon until it was called clearly in vent to stop.

I feel like this all very self explanatory. I'm confused why you think it was some evil plan to exploit summon mechanics and illegally (obviously illegal, would be petitioned and won by you) win a mob and get loot deleted and raid suspended?
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:35 PM
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Sleeper woke up and Rampage Tag is essentially no more, but not all Rampage members quitting server obviously.

Sleeper was gonna wake up before everyone on server had a chance to get their jollies in there. Someone was bound to be upset even if it was 10 years from now.

Raid environment has always been a shit show every time the top guild at the time has competition, nothing new there. Stop acting surprised.

Some people in this thread need a hug.

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Old 02-02-2016, 02:35 PM
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Daldaen said they did it solely for a guild first and for the enjoyment of the accomplishment. I was pointing out that was not true. Again there was one reason that some of the officers in Rampage chose to Wake the Sleeper and it wasn't because of the claims being made. I for one know you were a huge proponent of not waking it in TMO. There is only one reason to do so with the knowledge we all have of Velious and that is spite and to limit others. We all already knew the results of him wakening.
It doesn't necessarily make it false either.

There can certainly be multiple reasons, even competing reasons, for waking him within a single guild. EQ is whatever each person makes it. Some people play to make friends. Some people play to see dragons. Some people play to craft things. Some people play the bazaar game. Some people play to BIS. And yes, some people play to actively deny/hinder other people's progression. There are all kinds of people in all the different guilds. TMO had some people that played solely to deny other's entry into VP. FE had some people that played solely to deny other's entry into VP. BDA ruled the rotation list with an iron fist. Based on my prior experiences, the people in the active pixel-denial crowd were usually the most vocal and spent the most time tracking/FTEing, so I guess they could say they had a vested interest in maintaining that position.


I am still a proponent for leaving him be; however, I can certainly understand why people would want to have that title of "first and only." To be real though it was simply a matter of time before someone woke him. People couldn't even leave OOA alone for a few weeks even though it massively benefited everyone interested in Noble loots.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:37 PM
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I find it funny everyone cries autofire on both sides. For the record, I don't think omnia autofired nor do I think hoku did.

The raid scene devolved back into the kunark cothquest style of raiding that I despise. That's what burns me out. Not whether I win the mob or lose it, because it will always be there next week.

The only mob I was really salty on was when FAT killed yelinak with 120+. They engaged and their clerics ran out of mana around 50% but a rez the dead and send bodies strat in was enough to zerg him down. Don't need tanks, just eat a round and keep rezzing.
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