What's the reason

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a new classic box coming out by Dev/Image?

It is "classic" (50 cap) but it has some PoP and Luclin zones redesigned to be sub level 50 content. All of those custom zones will be dungeons and have entrances off of existing zones to keep the world small.

They also identify gaps in power between classes and add PVP token items to compensate, allow 2 boxing, added the nexus to use for portaling and bazaar/shadowhaven as the safe tradeskill/banking/trading and respawn area. You spawn with all of your gear in a PVE or PVP death.

So I wouldn't call it a classic server, more of a revamped vanilla EQ server based around 2 team PVP with city takeovers.

Those guys could give a fuck about duplicating the shitty PVP experience of classic EQ and instead aim on making PVP the focus and the game enjoyable.

It is also 6 month seasons with leaderboard carryover and possibly a title as a reward for being top 3.

[Colgate]

sounds p kew tbh

[Stasis01]

May fuck around if EXP isn't gouge my eyes out bad.

[Kergan]

They generally have a much accelerated xp rate, I would assume that is going to continue.

Another pretty cool thing they are doing is the longer your group remains in the zone, the higher the chance of rare items dropping and rare mobs spawning becomes. Basically incentive to control a zone, and incentive for the opposition to push you out and take over.

[georgie]

this like the 9th box surely it's good now

[Colgate]

most of their servers were very fun

the problem was most people are more interested in a p99 style server

aside from devnoob randomly disappearing for extended periods of time, always held the opinion that a server with image/devnoob at the helm and p99's source code would be the best box we'd likely ever have

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of their servers were very fun

the problem was most people are more interested in a p99 style server

aside from devnoob randomly disappearing for extended periods of time, always held the opinion that a server with image/devnoob at the helm and p99's source code would be the best box we'd likely ever have

Yep, couldn't agree more. We'll see if the seasonal approach hooks in people at all, their servers for the most part have operated that way anyways. I will say, their PVP code is as good or better than R99 - but don't expect the PVE/quest/mob pathing type polish of P99. It is certainly functional though.

When I played with Dentists on the last box, we spent at least 50% of the time if not more PVPing because we could knock out NToV in a couple hours every three days with 6 of us two boxing. Everyone on these boards that complains they are sick of the zerging EQ requires for Velious and there isn't enough PVP owes it to themselves to at least give this server a couple week trial in March. There really isn't much incentive to run a guild of more than 10-12 people, and you can farm some unique items as well as close to top tier raid loots from PVP tokens instead of PVE raids.

Perhaps if the new Zek box has some sustained success dev/image and P99 staff can bury the hatchet and give the community what it wants.

[Lasher]

Cannot speak for others but Devnoobs boxes always felt lacking and not real, not sure how to exactly describe it. Like if you lose a fight over a mob it doesnt have that fell of a loss. Almost like playing poker with fake chips like you can play and go through the motions but dont feel the real consequence of a loss.

red is not perfect. Wish i could change a lot but once again speaking for myself. I like that I can play, take a break and come back and my character is here.

Vztz had several wipes. Every time there was a wipe the server popped up in population because the people who were not on top come back and see if this time will be different but they usually quit like they did last time and you lose a portion of your veteran players because they lost the character they had and just dont want to do it over again.

Do not get me wrong for like 1-2 months after a wipe its fun but then its just back to what it was before with either same guild or a differnt guild. If Red wipes be it nihilum, empire, azrael, friends or someone else entirely will eventually be on top and we back at the same point and people will ask for a wipe.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cannot speak for others but Devnoobs boxes always felt lacking and not real, not sure how to exactly describe it. Like if you lose a fight over a mob it doesnt have that fell of a loss. Almost like playing poker with fake chips like you can play and go through the motions but dont feel the real consequence of a loss.

red is not perfect. Wish i could change a lot but once again speaking for myself. I like that I can play, take a break and come back and my character is here.

Vztz had several wipes. Every time there was a wipe the server popped up in population because the people who were not on top come back and see if this time will be different but they usually quit like they did last time and you lose a portion of your veteran players because they lost the character they had and just dont want to do it over again.

Do not get me wrong for like 1-2 months after a wipe its fun but then its just back to what it was before with either same guild or a differnt guild. If Red wipes be it nihilum, empire, azrael, friends or someone else entirely will eventually be on top and we back at the same point and people will ask for a wipe.

I somewhat agree with this. If you are quitting your job and have already been kicked out of your house do not play on a devnoob/image server, it won't fill the void or pay your rent.

If you just want to play a game for a few months it can be fun though.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cannot speak for others but Devnoobs boxes always felt lacking and not real, not sure how to exactly describe it. Like if you lose a fight over a mob it doesnt have that fell of a loss. Almost like playing poker with fake chips like you can play and go through the motions but dont feel the real consequence of a loss.

red is not perfect. Wish i could change a lot but once again speaking for myself. I like that I can play, take a break and come back and my character is here.

Vztz had several wipes. Every time there was a wipe the server popped up in population because the people who were not on top come back and see if this time will be different but they usually quit like they did last time and you lose a portion of your veteran players because they lost the character they had and just dont want to do it over again.

Do not get me wrong for like 1-2 months after a wipe its fun but then its just back to what it was before with either same guild or a differnt guild. If Red wipes be it nihilum, empire, azrael, friends or someone else entirely will eventually be on top and we back at the same point and people will ask for a wipe.

There is definitely some truth to that. The fast exp rates and easier raids don't give the same sense of character progression for example. I think that is why they are ultimately embracing the seasonal aspect though - if you're probably going to wipe just to breath life into the server after 4-5 months anyway, why not make that part of what the server is about?

Having a short lifespan server by design gives you a lot of flexibility with things like exp rates, drop rates, events, gear in general, etc. Worst case scenario something doesn't work out and a few months down the road its a moot point. Diablo 3 has proven how the seasonal model can actually be sustainable long term.