New server announced yet?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Green" server is a fresh server that will do the same progression as blue, properly "time restricted", with the intention of being rolled into blue some time post-green-Velious. People really like that idea. The staff floated it during one sirken stream and seemed to have walked it back hard since, probably surmising (correctly, imo) that such a move would turn blue 99 into a ghost town until the re-merge.

My idea is to release Luclin on the current blue, and then let those who really aren't attached to progressing their characters and raiding, to do a more classic time-line.

Luclin would likely sap all the hardcore raiders (or most) from the classic velious capped blue -- allowing a more classic atmosphere on that server. At the same time, raiders are going to want new content and will prob go for it despite all the "Cats on the Moon" bitching.

Now I know people are going to argue that some guild will dominate both servers...that simply doesn't happen. Once people pick a server they have very little motivation to stay hardcore on both. Maybe a few will play casually on one and more hardcore on the other, but things post velious are so time consuming that I doubt even that will happen much.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by SirAlvarex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hm interesting logic. If a new server opened up and every blue player except a skeletal few jumped ship wouldn't it mean that the player base supported such a decision?

With that said the server operators would have to double down on their monthly payments so that would be an issue for them. But if the economics were not an issue then a "Green" server that everyone would prefer to play sounds like a positive.

It wont be double, just add unit/s onto the existing rack... or semi-rack space. More efficient units at that. And once discord is out there, they can shut down red, use the newer units for the new pve server shuffling discord to the old.

Also, doubt blue would die out, people like kunark and Vel, and from the recent twitch feed sounds like Rogean wants to make such a new pve server advance more slowly through the expansion release timeline. This would be smart, so both servers keep interest for a long time to come.

[SirAlvarex]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wont be double, just add unit/s onto the existing rack... or semi-rack space. More efficient units at that. And once discord is out there, they can shut down red, use the newer units for the new pve server shuffling discord to the old.

Also, doubt blue would die out, people like kunark and Vel, and from the recent twitch feed sounds like Rogean wants to make such a new pve server advance more slowly through the expansion release timeline. This would be smart, so both servers keep interest for a long time to come.

Well that's still phyiscal hardware that needs to be bought. But you're right if they still fit in their cage and are under their power consumption it's just the one-time buy and they don't eat a higher monthly fee.

Plus if they're using virtualized hardware (which I think I read a few years ago they were) then it's even easier to launch a new set of hosts.

[Issar]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) discord has substantially different rules from red server, and thus is not simply offering the same product / dividing the numbers they have
2) red is dead anyway; this is a chance to breathe some life into EQ PvP

Making an extremely less forgiving environment where people will be pushed away from the server even faster than Red already does, doesn't exactly scream "breathing new life." [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It certainly won't attract new players.

I disagree with the idea of spinning up the Green server will divide the players. I'm guessing a large percentage of bluebies will start playing on Green when/if it goes live. So yes, the population of blue will decline... somewhat. However, they're still living on the same hardware, so they're not exactly leaving. In fact, a Green server that occurs on the live timeline will most certainly attract new players and retirees of P99. Not to mention, players will be able to box a Green toon and a Blue toon, so it's not like Blue will become a ghost town.

The proclaimed goal of P99 is to recreate EverQuest's classic era as closely as possible to the original. Launching the game on the classic timeline is necessary to achieve this goal. Being that the true classic timeline has a shelf life means that this server should as well. Blue has a significant amount of hours played of player investment and there's no reason that it should be wiped to achieve the goal, which is where the Green server comes in.

[Issar]

Originally Posted by SirAlvarex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that's still phyiscal hardware that needs to be bought. But you're right if they still fit in their cage and are under their power consumption it's just the one-time buy and they don't eat a higher monthly fee.

Plus if they're using virtualized hardware (which I think I read a few years ago they were) then it's even easier to launch a new set of hosts.

I may be wrong, but IIRC the current infrastructure that houses the P99 servers has plenty resources to handle an additional server. It's likely just the cost of spinning up a new VM.

[heartbrand]

Discord is going the way of teams at this point and is never coming out. Some green might respond and call me a troll or whatever but they did the exact same thing with teams and here we are almost THREE YEARS LATER. The same project where they told us on red "null is working on it" six months after null had already quit! Something may happen one day, but don't count on it.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Discord is going the way of teams at this point and is never coming out. Some green might respond and call me a troll or whatever but they did the exact same thing with teams and here we are almost THREE YEARS LATER. The same project where they told us on red "null is working on it" six months after null had already quit! Something may happen one day, but don't count on it.

troll

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I heard its broke. I heard it will be broke.