If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Hauling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you missed a few steps there. It's always a leap to god for you religious folks without ever digging deeper. Our understanding of the universe and physics is incomplete (how convenient). Does that mean we won't learn more? Yes, if we always jump to conclusions like you just did.

Dude, you cannot just answer the question? That is the "leap" you science guys always take. If we cannot defend our "wiki" knowledge of physics we will just say that it is incomplete and therefore your arguments (which we can argue against) wrong. Admit that you got pwned. And what is this about digging deeper? How about you dig deeper and try to answer my earlier questions about the "closed system" thing. And please...point out the few steps I missed there.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pointless, man. Any attempt to impart even basic scientific principle is met with the internet equivalent of " *sticks fingers in ears* Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! Lalalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU! Lalalala" and "You weren't there, you can't know that it's always been like that" despite overwhelming evidence that points it to be the case.

Like I said before:

The law of conservation of energy (the First Law of Thermodynamics) is an empirical law of physics. It states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time (is said to be conserved over time). A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created or destroyed: it can only be transformed from one state to another. The only thing that can happen to energy in a closed system is that it can change form: for instance chemical energy can become kinetic energy.

Prove that the Universe is a closed system. You cannot. No one can. Many have theories, but no proof, and most believe that is an Open System. So Mr. science guy, the law of conservation of energy cannot apply to the Universe which means matter CAN be created and destroyed with the Universe. I ask again...how did that matter come to being. Answer - GOD!

Where is my "I can't hear you" in that? Thought so. You may have to go beyond your eight grade scientific knowledge base to find a rebuttal, and I am not sure Wiki can help...lmao.

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You miss the point of the argument. I am saying that just because something cannot be proven by science...which has been wrong so many times in the past...does not mean it does not exist. (fact) Can we agree on that? So therefore you must admit that there is a possibility that God does exist. If you do not, then you are not following your own logic. I choose to believe that God does exist.

Science has been wrong many times in the past and guess what corrected it. Yep, more science.

You have your hypothesis that there is a god. Test it. That's your hypothesis to prove, not mine. I can't prove there is no god any more than I can prove there are no aliens, no centaurs or no leprechauns. Once again, the burden of proof is not on the people who question the claims. You say there is a god. Show me.

And a possibility is not a guarantee. There's always a possibility that Kristin Kreuk will walk into my bedroom and give me a blow job, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by Hauling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Further, by this analogy, do I need to prove to you that I also took a piss this morning? Do I also need to prove to you that I am even capable of taking a piss? Or do you think there's enough existing evidence out there that you can infer from that I do indeed piss?

pics or it didn't happen!

[Henini]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How in the flying fuck do you know that? lol

Not even what, decade ago, we didn't even know where more than half of the universe's mass was, nevermind WHAT it was? You're going to make a claim as strong as that based on what precious little we "know" now?

no that's actually jr high science!

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, you cannot just answer the question? That is the "leap" you science guys always take. If we cannot defend our "wiki" knowledge of physics we will just say that it is incomplete and therefore your arguments (which we can argue against) wrong. Admit that you got pwned. And what is this about digging deeper? How about you dig deeper and try to answer my earlier questions about the "closed system" thing. And please...point out the few steps I missed there.

There is no leap when it comes to science. That's the point. We don't know all the answers. So we keep looking till we find it. And if we run into more questions, we look for more answers.

Your whole argument is that because we haven't found answers yet, that is proof there is a god. Once again, another fallacy of false cause.

If my enduring fallacious arguments means I got "pwned" then congrats. You have won this battle of witlessness.

The closed system thing that you brought up will be answered in good time and the person that does that will receive the nobel prize. One more time and then I'm done repeating it. Just because we don't have all the answers yet is not proof that there is a god.

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pics or it didn't happen!

You got it.

[Henini]

So Boggwin Bramblefoot

To sum it up, judging by what you say, god is as real as dreams are.


I think we found a place to agree on god finally!


either that or its' a pickle eating bear. ( I hope you had your rock in your dream!!)

[Henini]

I was wondering...

If god created everything, does this mean he is with us on earth?

because there are sure lots of things that got created during the ages.
like cars computers boats concrete pavement pizza (yummy) etc..

like every time someone creates something, he's god ?


or is it something more like , god created the tought that made that person think about taking a bunch of different materials and passing current trough em and making things like computers?
or .. the wheel!
cuz we know that wasn't a coincidence right? there has to be higher power involved.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pointless, man. Any attempt to impart even basic scientific principle is met with the internet equivalent of " *sticks fingers in ears* Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! Lalalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU! Lalalala" and "You weren't there, you can't know that it's always been like that" despite overwhelming evidence that points it to be the case.

You're just as ignorant in many respects as the other idiots in the thread. (Primarily those not believing in evolution lol)

Every 5-10 years nearly our entire understanding of the basic principles of physics are fucked with when we learn something new. What makes you think we've got it this time around? lol

You're not omniscient. You don't know dick. (none of us do)