RMTers discuss P1999 dsetup.dll "includes some NSA-level intrusive scans on your PC"

[Secrets]

Pretty much, a DLL can do all of that. But his doesn't that is the key.

It'd set off AVs and then some. And not just on runtime; it only sets off AVs on runtime because it's packed with Themida. If it was sending your bank information or recording keystrokes you figured someone would've picked that up by now.

[Alaron01]

Originally Posted by simp403 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does the swapped dll file alter the executable file to inject code in this way, and how could it access other programs if the access permissions to do so were not originally granted to the executable loading the dll file?

IIRC it prompts for admin privileges -- it's been a while. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't intend to claim it was practical!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I am literally gobsmacked at the amount of bullshit being shoveled around trying to cover over the basic fact. WHEN YOU CLICK THIS EMU TO RUN YOU ARE ALLOWING ****MULTIPLE REAL TIME***** programs to start running on your computer. You are basically enabling a program, that you have ***ZERO*** control over that it actually runs!

Internet 101 people. The guides and gm's here are blowing so much smoke they make Admiral Poindexter look like Gilligan.

[Pokesan]

I'm very concerned with the safety of my megabytes

[simp403]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am literally gobsmacked at the amount of bullshit being shoveled around trying to cover over the basic fact.

Yeah, don't let facts or technical knowledge get in the way of your hyperbole and paranoia! The reason you're "gobsmacked" is because you know fuckall about software, but for some reason you've decided that knowledgeable people telling you

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHEN YOU CLICK THIS EMU TO RUN YOU ARE ALLOWING ****MULTIPLE REAL TIME***** programs to start running on your computer.

No, one program runs on your computer. Go start Everquest right now. Then go to your process list using Alt+Ctrl+Del. You see that single process called eqgame.exe? Yeah, that's the one program that runs. WinEQ2 may be running as a child process if you use it.

If you have Windows 8 or 10, you can also see what processes are accessing the network card and how much bandwidth they are using. When you only run EQ, do you see any other processes using bandwidth? No? Then that means that the only thing accessing the internet at the time (outside of your operating system) is the EQClient. No other programs are running.

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are basically enabling a program, that you have ***ZERO*** control over that it actually runs!

I don't even know how to approach this stupidity. What does this even mean? You have control over numerous aspects of the program, like if it runs or not. That's what the little red X in the top right corner of the screen is for.

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Internet 101 people. The guides and gm's here are blowing so much smoke they make Admiral Poindexter look like Gilligan.

What is Internet 101? What the fuck are you even talking about? You haven't even touched on any actual network aspects of the issue. You've just spouted a bunch of nonsense then acted as if you said something coherent. Your ignorance is astounding.

[simp403]

Double post cuz mad.

The second sentence in the above post was supposed to read:

The reason you're "gobsmacked" is because you know fuckall about software, but for some reason you've decided that knowledgeable people telling you you're wrong only validates your unfounded fears.

There was a lot of stupidity to process in that reply, so please forgive me for the mistake.

[Nastinate]

Most of you guys care more about PP/lewts then your bank account info, so the points moot.

[Ostros]

Guys shut up, I need necro spells. Pls sell to me in EC PSTSTSTSTST.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

simp403, you fell for my troll. just sayin.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

That was good stupid tho, eh?