Play Nice Policy Doesnt Apply to Bards Making Money

[JboxCSU]

Simmah dawn nah

[nhdjoseywales]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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nah, just bored at work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not a bard, don't give a shit about the topic, purely here to throw an insult or two and meander off into the night

[Ostros]

Originally Posted by jwargod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ethics and rules lawyering aside from both sides, man this is rants and flames worthy with the swearing and insults being thrown around.

It is a rant. Can it be moved? It's been a while since I've 'tarded it up in RnF. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by stavio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I took the little time I had to play this weekend to skill up my bard, after doing 20+ lvls of swarming from the previous weeks, it was time to catch up all my skills, weapons, defense, etc. and to level up my low lvl necro.

Honestly the double xp weekend seemed to bring the worst out of everyone, it didn't matter what class they was.

Man o man was the trains real this weekend, it got pretty crazy in Guk. Not once but twice I had charmers come up and charm the mob I was fighting after I had already killed 40-60% of their life. Powerleveling druids pulling mobs from you while you're trying to kill them so they can PL there buddy, it really just goes on and on.

Not that I didn't expect this kind of stuff from this bonus weekend, but I seen somethings I've never seen before on the griefing side of this game during this double xp event.

I'm pretty sure I will be sitting the next xp event out, It was very nice of the GM's to do such a nice thing for the server, but sometimes people just can't handle nice things.

I got the mental image of black friday @ walmart.

[clouddynasty]

This thread is missing PLAYER NAMES -- Instead of crapping all over EVERYONE who plays Bard how about you give the names of the turds that pull this kind of shit so we can all shame THEM and not our class? These people deserve to get floods of shame /tells and contempt from anyone attempt to interactions with.

This kind of general Bard hate does make it harder on those of us that don't do it. As a Bard that exclusively groups (or solos with charm) I thought that at 50+ everyone would know what I offer in terms of grouping but while I sat LFG for sometimes hours the response from many (not all) people seemed to be 'You're a bard, why aren't you swarming'.

[kstampy]

I don't bard but I always had 0 problems with bards that swarm. There is a vast array of zones where bard kiting doesn't even work that give even better ZEM. We even have people in this thread that said they have already quit for good. They are still flaming, nothing better to do? None of you whiners make any sense. How many tissues do you people need? It is scary to know a huge number of players are 30+ years old.

This is a perfect example of why I refuse to log in for double xp. Emo99 status.

[applesauce25r624]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep those bards are the worst! Good news kids! I'm waiting at the ramp to port you away from them!

confirmed:

1. have a bard. you want people to leave, so you port them out of there

2. getting kickbacks from a bard to help keep the zone clear

[jcr4990]

I hate Bard swarming as much as the next guy. But if you honestly went to FV OT DL BW on xp weekend and expected to not see tons of swarming bards and trains from dead bards and lag/desync from massive trains then you are incredibly dumb.

[DevGrousis]

Originally Posted by Verath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly why I never buff, port or rez bards. Bard LFG? rofl nah I'll just log my enchanter and CC from outside group.

You're an LOL if I ever saw one

[EndofLine]

If a bard is pulling YOUR mobs from YOUR camp then absolutely it applies. However... It does not apply to every mob in the zone. For instance.

If you are in Lake of Ill Omen in a Ledge Group. You don't own the entire Fort. If someone pulls the inside of the fort and throne room out, you have no leg to stand on to complain. This game is old enough to where camps are pretty clearly defined and understood.

I get that it's frustrating, but the reality is you don't "own" those mobs they are just conveniently near you.

This for instance comes up often in MM where anytime I get in a group @ Pond inevitably someone will just stand in canyon on the way to graveyard and plop their asses down and start killing everything from entrance to GY.

It's well understood that the canyon belongs to the Pond group, but that doesn't mean that everyone "agrees" with it. If either person /petitioned I doubt it would get any attention because truthfully neither are 100% right.

I was in Lake of Ill Omen for a while over the weekend (No I'm not bard btw...) and listened to a group Rage for about an hour about a bard pulling inside of the Fort. I ran over and noticed the bard was pulling the throne room and pathers.

Not either of the ledge groups nor the back door had pulled anything more than 2-3 spawns deep into the fort, the throne room nor anything near it had been touched, yet they were screaming/whining in shout for an hour about how a bard stole their mobs.

I get it, it pisses you off, but did the Bard commit a crime. No... sorry they didn't. At least not in this instance.

Now if you have half your camp down, and they wander around snagging the rest of your established camp you have a very clear issue that I could see being addressed.

At least in my instance I witnessed the group were just ill informed whiners who were pissed that they didn't have a bottomless fort to pull from.

Just not the way it works I'm afraid.

Anyway the weekend is over, hopefully things will go back to normal.