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Old 09-11-2015, 01:35 PM
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Fear is a Plane just off Feerrot.

Handing out money to those who refuse to EARN it has nothing to do with morality.

You wanna hand out money that has not been earned then the money that is earned loses value, basic economic principles.

Just because u "feel" good about it doesn't mean it won't have drastic repercussions.

Give your own money, but forcing others to is akin to slavery
You are still making a moral judgment about poor people.

You assume that being poor is an indication of laziness and therefore poor moral character.
Or that wealth is a natural result of having worked hard and an indication of good moral character.

Both are false premises.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Old 09-11-2015, 03:00 PM
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You are still making a moral judgment about poor people.

You assume that being poor is an indication of laziness and therefore poor moral character.
Or that wealth is a natural result of having worked hard and an indication of good moral character.

Both are false premises.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith
I made no reference to the poor or moral argument judging the less fortunate. You want to make this a moral vs immoral discussion. I am presenting the laws of nature and of natures God. Forced tribute in order to feed the masses results in less and less tribute and finally collapse.

As for my math sorry I'm at work and was ball parking the The figure. More of the same liberal tactic, we can't argue based on fundamental truths so we resort to critism in which the truth is presented.

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Old 09-11-2015, 03:14 PM
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You are still making a moral judgment about poor people.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith
Interesting assertion. If the expectation of entitlement to one's own property is a selfish one, what of the expectation of entitlement to the property of others?


Are we to assume that poverty is in fact virtuous and those afflicted by it are incapable of such moral failure?

If charity is virtuous and the lack thereof wicked, should not he who has no possessions instead offer up his labor freely?
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:17 PM
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What are ye nerds going on about? This is a Comcast hate thread. Get back on topic.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:23 PM
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What are ye nerds going on about? This is a Comcast hate thread. Get back on topic.
Went from Comcast being bad and the desire for Net Neutrality, then it went off the rails faster than a speeding Ted Cruz Missile when someone failed to comprehend what NN even is.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:26 PM
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Interesting assertion. If the expectation of entitlement to one's own property is a selfish one, what of the expectation of entitlement to the property of others?


Are we to assume that poverty is in fact virtuous and those afflicted by it are incapable of such moral failure?

If charity is virtuous and the lack thereof wicked, should not he who has no possessions instead offer up his labor freely?

In a nutshell, do the needs/wants of the "Collective" Trump the liberties/Rights of the individual?
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:29 PM
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Solid read, all over the place
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:35 PM
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In a nutshell, do the needs/wants of the "Collective" Trump the liberties/Rights of the individual?
It isn't a yes or no question.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:40 PM
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Went from Comcast being bad and the desire for Net Neutrality, then it went off the rails faster than a speeding Ted Cruz Missile when someone failed to comprehend what NN even is.
Gawd, really.

NN was just an example given on government assuming regulatory control over an Industry. I rather not have to litigate the destructive implications of NN again. I'm sure if u search the forums u can find that conversation at nausem.

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Old 09-11-2015, 03:41 PM
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It isn't a yes or no question.
Lol it's has a Yes or No result though
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