Dear "wipe it clean" nerds

[Gustoo]

Nah

[TacoSmasher]

Thread is shit.

server is good, empire is owning velly atm, there are multiple guilds killing raid targets and engaging in pvp. there is room for other guilds to gear up and grow.


most harmful thing for the server is the handful of retards (most who dont even play here) exaggerating issues and bitching on these forums literally every day.

forum wipe/shutdown 2015 kthnx.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

srs question,

why do you think that a new pvp server would end up any different than the current pvp server after a year?

(this is not in RNF for a reason. if you dont have anything to contribute, don't post here)

<3
Sirks

I believe what you are asking is why even bother creating a new server unless it'll turn out differently than this one. People are getting too hung up on "wipe or no wipe".

And Sirken, you're asking an essentially useless question honestly. First off, some people have no issues with how this server turned out. Even assuming that the consensus is this server sucks (it probably is), asking how to prevent something completely undefined from happening a second time is an impossible question.

So if you want true meaningful discussion, we would have to first define in specifics what exactly we don't want to happen again if there were to be a new server.

So for example, let's say we want a server with more PVP as a general goal. We'd have to first agree on what causes people to not PVP on this server and come up with solutions for each of them that are realistic.

Example:

People avoid PVP because dying in EverQuest sucks (potentially long CRs, etc). Possible solution - if you die in PVP you spawn with all your gear. Positives could be less fear of death, people acting more aggressively. Negatives could be abuse of it for free ports or avoiding exp loss deaths, and pushing it too far the other direction where people don't really care at all if they die instead of caring too much.

I'd also add, that R99 turned out like every other PVP server ever created. If you want to avoid that fate, you're going to have to concede some of the "classic for classic sake" parts of R99. It's a weird thing where the line gets drawn around here. Non classic resists? Sure. Non classic PVP ruleset? Ok. Changes to overpowered items, recharging items, etc? That's ok too. But in game leaderboards? No way. Rewards for PVP? Can't have it! Fixes to OOR healing, zone plugging? Too much work.

If you really want to make something cool, you're going to have to remove those classic-only training wheels from whatever PVP dev/project manager you bring into the fold to build this thing.

[magician]

servers in much better shape then it was in kunark atm. kick rocks

[Gustoo]

Easiest thing would be just make a discord server, perma death (back to level one) and 100 percent loot. Classic only and resets after a few months.

I'd like to see a full new server but a discord would be a lot of fun too.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Easiest thing would be just make a discord server, perma death (back to level one) and 100 percent loot. Classic only and resets after a few months.

I'd like to see a full new server but a discord would be a lot of fun too.

id play discord for sure, was server full loot, for reference?

[surron]

Originally Posted by TacoSmasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thread is shit.

server is good, empire is owning velly atm, there are multiple guilds killing raid targets and engaging in pvp. there is room for other guilds to gear up and grow.


most harmful thing for the server is the handful of retards (most who dont even play here) exaggerating issues and bitching on these forums literally every day.

forum wipe/shutdown 2015 kthnx.

this dude is right, there should only be 2 sections, trade and guild. too many outside nerds that don't play here give red a bad name

[TacoSmasher]

you have brain damage, your opinion is invalid.

[surron]

Originally Posted by Pumped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the most harmful thing for this server has ALWAYS been the staff

sorry

care to explain how? they answer petitions that deal with in game bugs and dont fucking lawyer quest (classic). imo the the staff on red is way better than blue.

[Swish]

Aussie was great at summoning an expired corpse a while back. Top service.