Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Robbintha Hood]

Iksars are great necros, no doubt about it. But I chose to roll Dark Elf just because.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Krashin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnomes...tinker and look through walls ... $$

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[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's even more extreme than that. The difference in regen (standing) at 60 is 8 HP regen. Z-Heart is 5.

So a gnome with a Z-Heart is still 3 less HP regen than a naked Iksar Necromancer.

Hell a gnome with a Z-Heart and 1 of the 2 Aura of Battle (2 HP regen) Necro usable items from Velious, is STILL 1 HP regen less than a naked Iksar Necromancer.

It's pretty ridiculous. This is the table for level 60 with Demi Lich (stand - feign - sit):

Non-Iksar with Demi-Lich - 28 - 27 - 25
Iksar with Demi-Lich.......- 20 - 18 - 14

A sitting Iksar Necro can overcome Demi Lich with just a Regrowth from a Druid. A gnome would need Regrowth, Z-Heart, 2 Aura of Battle items and they would STILL be losing 1 HP a tick.

A standing Iksar Necro can overcome Demi Lich with just a Regrowth and Z-Heart. A gnome would be losing 9 even if he had the extra 4 regen from 2 Aura of Battle items.

Solo, using 10th Ring clicky and Z-Heart an Iksar Necro can sit with Demi Lich and not lose HP.

Etc. etc.

and just to put that in perspective -- how much do you guys think Zlandicar's Heart will sell for? i'm thinking prices comparable to AoN.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

How do you do it? Simple. Throw math out the window.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by B4EQWASCOOL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you do it? Simple. Throw math out the window.

I cannot throw the most pure science form out the window - Does not compute.

Iksars are the best. Everything else is fashionquest.

[ddxdy]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and just to put that in perspective -- how much do you guys think Zlandicar's Heart will sell for? i'm thinking prices comparable to AoN.

Hard to compare, AoN is a purely fashionquest item that everyone desires, Zheart is functional item that really only one class desires.

The zheart is a common drop, and zlandicar's respawn rate is about 3 days. So figure 10 zlandicars are killed per month.

Lets say the average guild gets 3 zlandicars a month, then they are getting 1-2 zhearts per month.

If there are on average 10 active necros per guild wanting zheart, you've got 5-10 months before all the mains in a guild have zheart.

Pretty hard to predict because it will probably be unbalanced and one guild getting more kills/hearts than another but they won't hit the market till a guild starts getting excess hearts.

I can easily see 200-300k per zheart as a stabilized price, and zhearts not hitting the market and being sold for the first 10 months.

Still cheaper/better than necro epic.

[pharmakos]

so picking any race other than iksar is like sacrificing a free ~250k item.

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so picking any race other than iksar is like sacrificing a free ~250k item.

Except Zlandi heart is +5hp/tick and at 60 Iksar is +11hp/tick.

[kaev]

Non-Iksar necro strat: Group with a paladin! He'll be so happy to have a friend he'll keep you healed no questions asked!

A fungi tunic is 15hp/tick standing or sitting, even so the overwhelming majority of melees & hybrids & even shamans here somehow get by without one despite taking damage all the time. An Iksar necro has a useful edge, but any necro in skilled hands is very powerful and effective, soloing extremely well and pulling his weight & then some in a group.

Mountain? Nope, molehill.

[ddxdy]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Non-Iksar necro strat: Group with a paladin! He'll be so happy to have a friend he'll keep you healed no questions asked!

A fungi tunic is 15hp/tick standing or sitting, even so the overwhelming majority of melees & hybrids & even shamans here somehow get by without one despite taking damage all the time. An Iksar necro has a useful edge, but any necro in skilled hands is very powerful and effective, soloing extremely well and pulling his weight & then some in a group.

Mountain? Nope, molehill.

The difference is those melees/tanks don't have a persistent 20 dmg/tick hitting them. That's what we're talking about, that's a fundamental part of the necro class.