GG fizzled out. TMO & Empire can make new PnP?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?

Never said that...I wasn't around for all the shit that went down. I loved <Fresh>. We had differing opinions about a few things but overall the objectives were the same. I'm betting you remember I wanted Tiggles to bring it to red too...the whole thing might have been different if <Fresh> had still been together.

It is what it is, tho. Ya can't cry over spilled milk. The only thing this server has needed the last few months is a clear opponent to <Empire>. People are trying to do that. <Fresh> would have taken the leftovers until Velious...but who knows afterward?

The advantage Tiggles has is that he plays politics well. That shit is even more cutthroat on blue, trust me. Reds are pretty black and white about shit.

[Buhbuh]

In the spirit of consistency, I didn't think you were fit to be a leader near the end there when you pushed the neo-nazi garbo on the forums all day, Max.

I think, in a way, it undermined your own purpose (though I wouldn't say wholly). That pushed a lot of players into our arms out of just frustration. And Gardur wanted to usurp you as the leader (which everyone was hoping would be an amicable change/ agreement), but GG happened instead.

They're hemorrhaging members to us now at an even greater rate, but to be fair there was a good amount of that going on when you were projecting neo-nazism onto us.

Still, you're right that Fresh would've been better off if not involved in the merge.

[beta]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

working closely with TMO leadership to create a new play nice policy

keep your eyes out this week for a rough draft

Rotation on spawns probably lol

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the spirit of consistency, I didn't think you were fit to be a leader near the end there when you pushed the neo-nazi garbo on the forums all day, Max.

I think, in a way, it undermined your own purpose (though I wouldn't say wholly). That pushed a lot of players into our arms out of just frustration. And Gardur wanted to usurp you as the leader (which everyone was hoping would be an amicable change/ agreement), but GG happened instead.

They're hemorrhaging members to us now at an even greater rate, but to be fair there was a good amount of that going on when you were projecting neo-nazism onto us.

Still, you're right that Fresh would've been better off if not involved in the merge.

The irony behind this is the majority of members that have gone to Empire from GG were ex-Azrael.

Anyone else finding humour in this?

Twainz, Andis, Mutant, Salaryman to just name a few...

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The irony behind this is the majority of members that have gone to Empire from GG were ex-Azrael.

Anyone else finding humour in this?

Twainz, Andis, Mutant, Salaryman to just name a few...

Aids

[SamwiseRed]

not sure who Buhbuh is but i find it hilarious when nobodies critique other guilds for trying to compete when all they do is join the winning guild [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been on this box for 3 years fool. Nihilum had a transparent DKP/Attendance system which clearly indicated where you were in the scheme of things. I raided for months knowing and respecting transparency and never complained about loot once.

I'm calling empire out for what it is. I was grateful that they took in my pals from Blaze/Smoke Break, but time and time again they have proven to be corrupt as fuck. Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started? Many epic MQs, raw plat and items?

Did you know God's Work was the whole reason Empire/Holo came to power? They had an agreement with God's Work to provide a Crown of Rile and backstabbed them as part of the trade. Was it worth burning bridges over a crown, which they since have gotten over 20+?

I can wait in line for pixels, I just don't like it when people can jump the queue due to under the table deals. That shit shouldn't be on but is a regular theme in Empire. Stasis getting the first pair of Hoshkar boots after being in both Azrael and God's Work and openly griefing Holo every step of the way?

If you actually think that guild had fair loot decisions when people like Rallyd, Mendan, Korbel, Hectorchrist and numerous other terrible PvPers were awarded AoN's, you've got something seriously wrong with your brain.

Nihilum (Nizzar) awarded based on "he's done his time," rather than someone who puts in more effort/ time helping others. They awarded Shrimp and Qazzaz crown of riles because they were highest on the DKP list. Those 2 are/ were not proactive players - they were warm bodies who didn't even know the zone layouts they were in half the time. They played like Pudge and Oppressor in Azrael on raids.

Vaporize was furious when Qazzaz and Shrimp were awarded those crowns (and over Qazzaz being awarded VS gauntlets just days later) based on time instead of measuring actual effort. Every raid was a select 12 or so people doing all the heavy lifting to make the raids go smoothly while everyone waited for their pixel pinatas. People with 50 less DKP that did 1000% more on raids/ after raids were passed up for shitters who "put in their time."

[dontbanpls]

Says samwise the nobody who plays for a month or two at a time to an officer of empire.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says samwise the nobody who plays for a month or two at a time to an officer of empire.

if i had to guess he was probably in nilly then jump shipped to holo when they were banned. could be wrong.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually think that guild had fair loot decisions when people like Rallyd, Mendan, Korbel, Hectorchrist and numerous other terrible PvPers were awarded AoN's, you've got something seriously wrong with your brain.

Nihilum (Nizzar) awarded based on "he's done his time," rather than someone who puts in more effort/ time helping others. They awarded Shrimp and Qazzaz crown of riles because they were highest on the DKP list. Those 2 are/ were not proactive players - they were warm bodies who didn't even know the zone layouts they were in half the time. They played like Pudge and Oppressor in Azrael on raids.

Vaporize was furious when Qazzaz and Shrimp were awarded those crowns (and over Qazzaz being awarded VS gauntlets just days later) based on time instead of measuring actual effort. Every raid was a select 12 or so people doing all the heavy lifting to make the raids go smoothly while everyone waited for their pixel pinatas. People with 50 less DKP that did 1000% more on raids/ after raids were passed up for shitters who "put in their time."

I was passed on at least 5 cloak of flakes over people who joined the guild after me. My friend Kairan who played for a month got one from nihilum a couple weeks in and i never got one during my 6 months with the guild. I lost sky shoulders to Vanco on his first plane of sky raid about 5 months into my tenure and 3 weeks into his.