GG fizzled out. TMO & Empire can make new PnP?

[Eslade]

Until caught for leadership level rmt.

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are an idiot, Vaporize came back when Gyno gave him all his characters back, After the characters were back in vaporize's possession, he(VAPORIZE) let Strydur main and play Grinch

Pretty much this. Anyone who used ts knew vapo played onepunch and bosshog in raids.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As of yesterday I and a few other members of TMO have deguilded our Empire tagged toons in the spirit of neutrality.

We have a lot of respect for Empire and its members and we would consider any proposals to better our server.

The same goes for Good Guys and while they have been antagonistic towards us we will take our lumps and continue to level up and and eventually contest.

We have been recruiting and leveling and we have been pleasently surprised with the average quality of our recruits. We have also not been compromising and have already removed a few less savioury members already.

We are not Empire we are not Good Guys we are not the same toxic core group of people that have tanked guild upon guild. We are here to stay

you actually did what i wanted you to from the start...and although you had me worried at first your red cred just went way up imho

welcome to red, finally [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Redtrader]

You know its funny how much you complain about empire drakar, funny because if you had gotten that sow sword like you wanted you wouldn't have said anything and would have just kept on raiding.

What does that say about you that you will complain so much about an entire guild and have 20 different reasons for why they are a low class guild, firing off one after the other after the other ,but alternatively would have stuck around and acted like nothing was wrong if you had got it that pixel? You think its really about moral high-ground, or maybe that you didn't get that pixelated sword on that day?

I think the later, because you volunterally joined a guild with lite (caught rmting) and sektors (caught rmting) and various other people who are 100% confirmed to have practiced all of these things you allege the officers of empire engage in.

My opinion is your just a greedy scorned pixel whore drakar. You didn't get your precious pixels and all of your subsequent activities are a reflection of that, every single one. Have fun being a small fry in velious, no guild is going to want you after seeing your reaction to being denied a sow sword.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you actually did what i wanted you to from the start...and although you had me worried at first your red cred just went way up imho

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Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?

[Buhbuh]

oh you mean the 5 guilds that merged together and still to this day are in separate channels not participating or integrating with each other is failing?

didn't expect that

also didn't warn gardur of that exact scenario right before it happened because it's happened before

RIP GG

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?

You were the leader.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were the leader.

I think that's more true than you realize. It all boiled down to Azrael figuring out a good way to make me look like the bad guy. I don't regret trying to improve the server.

I find it sickening that people from <Fresh> would want to play with people like Drakar who disparage their accomplishments openly on the forum every chance they get in order to legitimize this merge. <Fresh> wasn't just a feeder guild for Empire, or Azrael, it brought people to the server and underneath all of that we formed a core group of raiders that where vested in the development of new people. We all worked hard to form bonds with each other and to make raids happen.

I am sad that people are so eager to throw that away. I was not going to pit my guild against itself. People needed to see the truth and now they are.

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Redtrader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know its funny how much you complain about empire drakar, funny because if you had gotten that sow sword like you wanted you wouldn't have said anything and would have just kept on raiding.

What does that say about you that you will complain so much about an entire guild and have 20 different reasons for why they are a low class guild, firing off one after the other after the other ,but alternatively would have stuck around and acted like nothing was wrong if you had got it that pixel? You think its really about moral high-ground, or maybe that you didn't get that pixelated sword on that day?

I think the later, because you volunterally joined a guild with lite (caught rmting) and sektors (caught rmting) and various other people who are 100% confirmed to have practiced all of these things you allege the officers of empire engage in.

My opinion is your just a greedy scorned pixel whore drakar. You didn't get your precious pixels and all of your subsequent activities are a reflection of that, every single one. Have fun being a small fry in velious, no guild is going to want you after seeing your reaction to being denied a sow sword.

I've been on this box for 3 years fool. Nihilum had a transparent DKP/Attendance system which clearly indicated where you were in the scheme of things. I raided for months knowing and respecting transparency and never complained about loot once.

I'm calling empire out for what it is. I was grateful that they took in my pals from Blaze/Smoke Break, but time and time again they have proven to be corrupt as fuck. Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started? Many epic MQs, raw plat and items?

Did you know God's Work was the whole reason Empire/Holo came to power? They had an agreement with God's Work to provide a Crown of Rile and backstabbed them as part of the trade. Was it worth burning bridges over a crown, which they since have gotten over 20+?

I can wait in line for pixels, I just don't like it when people can jump the queue due to under the table deals. That shit shouldn't be on but is a regular theme in Empire. Stasis getting the first pair of Hoshkar boots after being in both Azrael and God's Work and openly griefing Holo every step of the way?

[Colgate]

so do you have proof or what?