ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[beyondinfin]

"Jon Always Comes Back." - Sam

[Sirken]

my big issue is this. in the book, the nightswatch is in the right for stabbing jon. hes not allowed to gather up his brothers to fight the boltons. but in the show, the brothers were just salty over the wildlings. that is not ok. they didnt end jon "for the watch", they did it because they didnt agree with him. dumb.

sansa will be fine.

pretty cool how they worked stannis's scene to make you wonder if hes dead or not.

not horrible, but far from the best finale. as a whole the season moved real slow, reminded me a lot of book 4.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my big issue is this. in the book, the nightswatch is in the right for stabbing jon. hes not allowed to gather up his brothers to fight the boltons. but in the show, the brothers were just salty over the wildlings. that is not ok. they didnt end jon "for the watch", they did it because they didnt agree with him. dumb.

sansa will be fine.

pretty cool how they worked stannis's scene to make you wonder if hes dead or not.

not horrible, but far from the best finale. as a whole the season moved real slow, reminded me a lot of book 4.

How can they be in the right for stabbing Jon to death over gathering brothers to fight the Bolton's. That's pretty much the same exact thing as not agreeing with him about the wildlings. Anyways, my gripe is that it was painfully obvious to everyone that Jon was right about the white walkers and that even Jon didn't wanna have to join forces with the wildlings but knew there was no real choice.

Not to mention a lot of people saw him single handedly kill a white walker and they know the dude knows how to fight. Knowing there's an army of undead coming for you, you'd think you'd want as many people like Jon on your side as you can get. It's not like killing Jon some how gets rid of all of the wildlings that are still there so wtf was the point really?

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my big issue is this. in the book, the nightswatch is in the right for stabbing jon. hes not allowed to gather up his brothers to fight the boltons. but in the show, the brothers were just salty over the wildlings. that is not ok. they didnt end jon "for the watch", they did it because they didnt agree with him. dumb.

sansa will be fine.

pretty cool how they worked stannis's scene to make you wonder if hes dead or not.

not horrible, but far from the best finale. as a whole the season moved real slow, reminded me a lot of book 4.

I pretty much agree with all of this. Although definitely not the best, this season wasn't horrible. It was just awfully paced (plate tectonics comes to mind), which makes it seem worse than it actually was.

I do, however, think some of the original plot needed work. Stannis TWICE gets caught unaware because he doesn't employ sentries and scouts. That makes absolutely no sense. The Meereen story had an even bigger plot hole. There's a massive regicidal insurrection in the fighting pits, and the next time we see the city Varys and Tyrion are overlooking a scene of relative tranquility? I'm sorry, but unless Drogon was hovering above, those people would be in open revolt right now. Or maybe they're happier with slave soldiers led a foreign dwarf ruling them.... (I realize there was a similar situation in the books)

I'm being captious, but honestly I didn't mind the season other than the pace and the above gripes. I agree with you that they looked like petty, treasonous ass holes for killing Jon that way. In the books, he was essentially deserting the watch. The penalty for that is ALWAYS death. In the show, Olly should've stabbed him alone. Would've made more sense.

[Nads]

My brother's been begging me to start watching this show again. Years ago I started watching but got to like episode 5 of the first season before I had to head back to college for the semester. This past week some shit happened irl and I had no motivation to do anything this weekend, so I said what the hell....

Now on episode 2 of season 3..i can't stop watching!

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Luminari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can they be in the right for stabbing Jon to death over gathering brothers to fight the Bolton's. That's pretty much the same exact thing as not agreeing with him about the wildlings. Anyways, my gripe is that it was painfully obvious to everyone that Jon was right about the white walkers and that even Jon didn't wanna have to join forces with the wildlings but knew there was no real choice.

Not to mention a lot of people saw him single handedly kill a white walker and they know the dude knows how to fight. Knowing there's an army of undead coming for you, you'd think you'd want as many people like Jon on your side as you can get. It's not like killing Jon some how gets rid of all of the wildlings that are still there so wtf was the point really?

no. no its not. the brothers of the nights watch do not involve themselves with the wars of men (ie: Stannis vs Roose), they do however protect the realm of men, lets say from, f'ing undead frozen ice zombies (whitewalkers). you dont save the wildlings and they get killed and turned into wights/others (ie: zombies), and the realm of men could very well perish. there is an absolutely huge difference there.

in the show there was no point. the nights watch was all butt hurt and they killed him. they should all be executed for being traitors. in the book jon tries rallying them to fight against Roose, that is a cardinal sin, and that makes jon a traitor to the watch, and should have been executed.

[Eldon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FGT7NzqDRU

[LoliPops]

felt rushed, only parts I loved were
Tyrion & Varys's excellent Meereen adventure
Cersei's Shame, SHAME
SHAME

wud bang

[Tapatio]

Very upset with recent developments

[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty cool how they worked stannis's scene to make you wonder if hes dead or not.

that was a nice jumpcut

ramsay = "evil" for picking off wounded, straggling soldiers.

brienne = "good" yet is executing an immobilized and badly wounded stannis.

getting real tired of brienne's shit personally.