Hey Forsaken

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must be the only one who hasn't seen the screen shot of their forums where they discuss using the rebrand as a tool to circumvent the class system.

That's not what it shows..

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So who else would like see to totally not TMO anymore take their punishment and then wait for demotion just to wreck class R out of spite?

Sure. See you in 6 weeks.

[Cecily]

Naw. I'm done with this silly place for now.

[Misek84]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff opinion seems to be it was a rebrand, and that opinion is more relevant than whatever reality might have been.

What solution would you offer to prevent large groups of people flipping between classes by cycling the creation of new guilds?

Or do you not see that as a problem that would need to be addressed?

Lets be serious u really think forshaken was formed to cycle to R? If a guild was doing that it would be painfully obvious and no one would support them. You need to look at all the facts, and the simple fact that dkp was wiped, new loot system in place, new leadership, new website, etc proves this wasnt some "clever" scheme to cycle to R.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Misek84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So why harshly punish one guild and barely punish another?

Did Forsaken consult with Sirken about their move to Class R? Or did they base it on two paragraphs of Sirken's post which were immediately contradicted by his third paragraph?

[Cecily]

It's not the brightest leadership TMO has ever had...

[Nirgon]

Wondering if any of you have the slightest concept of how horrible ToV will be here without staff enforced rotations

Come 2 red

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like guilds reform every Weeks or some shit ?

I think if the ruling went the other way, this could have been a potential result.

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What matters is and the core of the argument is what makes a new entity? The big issue on top of that is that both class C entities reformed recently.

Agreed this is an issue. Until recently guilds have been easy to define. I have to agree with Alarti that the current system has all sorts of unintend consequences, such as having to redefine guild so it is more than just a tag (although I believe that was already a slight issue with the problems of 'alt guilds' in the past).

It's certainly an interesting discussion to read as someone completely outside to the guild scene.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chest says the two suspensions are unrelated and cannot be compared. You say the two suspensions are unrelated and cannot be compared. I'd posit that you're in agreement. Case closed.

By the way, learn the difference between parody and impersonation.

Reading Comprehension. If anything that proves that a new guild name isn't a clean slate. You should really try not to cherry-pick.

A parody (/ˈpærədi/; also called spoof, send-up or lampoon), in use, is a work created to imitate, make fun of, or comment on an original work, its subject, author, style, or some other target, by means of satiric or ironic imitation

Impersonation: an act of pretending to be another person for the purpose of entertainment or fraud.
"he did an impersonation of Fred Astaire"
synonyms: impression, imitation; More



It seems you're exactly as stupid as you pretend to be. As I said if you want to imitate me you really need to keep up.

[Colgate]

thank god on red there have only been like two instances of guilds getting raid suspended... ever