Consider Project 2002

[Deckk]

I just can't get passed the boxing! It's bothering me because I really like the sound of this server. Argh!!

[Akillez]

I played night solo, got into a group pretty easy and then got pled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I hate boxing as well, but the community is a amazing so far.

[DeathWalking]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just can't get passed the boxing! It's bothering me because I really like the sound of this server. Argh!!

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

[Deckk]

Originally Posted by DeathWalking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

[BossThunderace]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

You can also make a Gnome Shadowknight...


and WoW is ezmode compared to EQ

[ixtebang]

Had a great time playing again last night. The high levels on this server are extremely helpful. Got lots of great Shaman and Cleric buffs in PoK. A level 50 shadowknight was making full banded armor sets for free, so I got my sk decked out in banded. He now looks like the shady swashbuckler. I also got invited by a druid to a PL my entire trio in Kurn's tower along with his twinks.. my group went from level 5 to level 12 in under an hour, it was awesome!

[DeathWalking]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

Ultimately you should play what you enjoy, but you dont know what you enjoy until you try it right [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]? Personally, i didnt care much for wow. my first MMO was classic EQ so that sort of set a very high bar for me. classic was about as close to D&D as you can get without actually rolling dice, and D&D was what kindled my love for rpgs.


With WoW (and im not saying you shouldnt try it because everyone's tastes differ) i feel like the potential issues with boxing are present without boxing. I found it terribly easy. easy to the point that you can solo all the way up to the raid scene without any sort of issue. as a byproduct of that, the community is typically really bad. very little social interaction, and even less positive social interaction. people level so quickly that they never have the opportunity to truly learn their class, so you end up with a raid scene riddled with noobs.


However, now that the people who played vanilla WoW are a little bit older, maybe theyve mellowed some, like a fine box wine.


Play what you like, but i honestly dont think you'll be disappointed if you decide to try p2002. after years of p99, the first word i could think of to describe p2002 was 'refreshing'.

[Sketched]

Originally Posted by DeathWalking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

Do you really think that the dev team and the server population would disallow boxing? All these people putting time into their alts, or box members, believing that due to the current rule set they are allowed to have them? I know I would be pissed spending a ton of time setting up a team and gearing them out, only to have that rule revoked. Not everything has to appeal to everyone. The 3 boxing limit on both servers is pretty fair, and both servers have single/duo boxers and helpful members in their communities.

[apio]

I do not think P2002 will ever restrict boxing beyond what we have right now. We believe 3 is a pretty good compromise. With the exp mechanics in place this size encourages picking up extra people in your group beyond those 3 boxes.

Hypothetically, if our size ever justified or made it necessary to change the rules, I am pretty sure we would opt for creation of a 2nd box before changing rules on our existing box

Nobody would argue that a guild of single boxers with 20 characters doesn't have a way higher ceiling than 7 people playing 3 characters each. Boxing characters on raids can be very cumbersome and often times detrimental. I guess what I am trying to say is, less is sometimes more.

I personally prefer to not box, I find the game way more relaxing and enjoyable and I am able to play my character on a whole other level, but I play a Bard so its easy for me to say, most classes don't have the potential to keep you as busy.

But that's just it, there are classes that are way too 1 dimensional to single box. Warrior and Rogue come to mind, Wizard is another prime example. Many of those classes also are very dependent on finding groups, while other classes can solo all the way to 65 and full AAs. The sad truth is, EQ just isn't a very balanced game, I think 3 boxing kind of serves as a great equalizer, while at the same time promoting the use of not so frequently picked classes that aren't very self sufficient on their own.

[Deckk]

One things for sure, I love my gnome warrior here wayyyy too much to just switch. But maybe I'll give it a go with a shaman/shadow knight combo tonight. And although I hate PoK, it won't be hard to get a barb and a gnome to the same starting area... We'll see.