Quitting TMO

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Magifyre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never on classic did you EVER need to constantly keep fraps loaded and logs running to have total proof of everything that transpired just so you wouldn't be suspended for trying to play the game. Shit's not classic.

There's a reason it's like it is here. The prevailing mentality of most of the raiders here is "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen."

[Magifyre]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a reason it's like it is here. The prevailing mentality of most of the raiders here is "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen."

You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Magifyre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.

What? Do you even logic pal? Ravager is spot on. That bullshit "prove it" mentality was already deeply entrenched at the high end when I started raiding here, which was over a year before the raid rules got complicated. And that mentality has created the fucked up situations that have driven evolution of the raid rules since

[kaev]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Do you even logic pal? Ravager is spot on. That bullshit "prove it" mentality was already deeply entrenched at the high end when I started raiding here, which was over a year before the raid rules got complicated. And that mentality has created the fucked up situations that have driven evolution of the raid rules since

It's fun to blame TMO for everything, and I've definitely got a seat on that bandwagon, but they had help from time to time. Just because they've done the most damage doesn't mean they're the only vandals at the party.

[Magifyre]

So if players still claimed "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." in response to rules violations before said rules were in place, then what does "it" represent?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Magifyre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're begging the question. You're saying these rules are in place because people have adopted the "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." mentality. But the player base has adopted that mentality because of these nonsensical rules being imposed on them. Something can't be the cause for and result of something else. Logical fallacies 101.

There is no begging the question. There is no fallacy. For years the GMs turned a blind eye to shit and still would if nobody was frapsing it. My argument is valid and you're an idiot.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Magifyre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if players still claimed "If nobody saw it, it didn't happen." in response to rules violations before said rules were in place, then what does "it" represent?

All of the training, KSing and general asshattery that happened before the frapswars. But this is as much as I'm going to spell out for you.

[Magifyre]

Clear cut circular logic. Worse than an apologist, and this fuck wit has the audacity to talk down to me. Thanks for reminding me of another reason why I don't waste my time with this piece of shit server anymore. If you feel like explaining how you're not employing circular logic by saying that GM's turned a blind eye to activities before they were against their rules, then by all means, shove your foot even further into your mouth.

/popcorn.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Magifyre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clear cut circular logic. Worse than an apologist, and this fuck wit has the audacity to talk down to me. Thanks for reminding me of another reason why I don't waste my time with this piece of shit server anymore. If you feel like explaining how you're not employing circular logic by saying that GM's turned a blind eye to activities before they were against their rules, then by all means, shove your foot even further into your mouth.

/popcorn.

You're too stupid to play here. Got it. Good riddance.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're too stupid to play here. Got it. Good riddance.

You get really defensive when you are clearly wrong. (^This was also a logical fallacy btw)