Are there any ways/things we can do so the admins know we are not boxing?

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you'll be shouting for someone to quickly come in from the next room and sit to do the test.

Why would your bard autofollow his monk for an hour?

Because his monk is twinked to the teeth, and I can play something else while my healing song keeps his health full. If we were to have a GM pop up I could alt tab or turn to my PC and respond to the GM.

Originally Posted by imajester [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While not the definition of boxing it does violate the spirit what the rules are trying to not allow.

How many people on this server play in the "spirit" of the rules? How about all the famous wizard joining groups and then AFKing 90% of the time? Same shit, different number of people.

[cyrusdark]

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

You're absolutely right that they couldn't tell the difference. My innocence on this specific event, however, isn't even a question. In the actual instance I had a character suspension, I wasn't boxing in any way. A cleric can't do much for a level 10 - its not an active power level. You throw Naltron+HB on them and walk away. I didn't camp because I enjoyed comin on back, reading chat periodically, and talking back. If I was boxing, I'd freely admit it - I've already been punished as if it was the case. Its not like some extra action is going to happen - I'd probably get a few pats on the back for 'coming clean.' Unfortunately, it was a legitimate situation the actual time a suspension hit me. I didn't read a 'no afking at the derv camp' in the rules originally. I see my mistake now, but it hsd to be deduced.

Look, I get that GMs have to do what they do. It may have upset me, but I understand they can't tell the difference. It ain't no thang. What I'm hoping to do is warn others that the tests make it risky to afk, to let younger kids play that may not be able to pass, and so forth. When you get a family IP exemption, you have to be exceptionally cautious and vigilant about camping, not afking even for short durations, and so forth.

This isn't a pity-me post. Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning to others. You might just walk back to a 30-Day suspension or worse. I'm certain the GMs are aware that with strict measures, you will occasionally get your conclusion wrong. They continue it as a 'greater good' situation and I can't fault that. Just, be careful. I didn't know the extent at which I would need to camp, etc., originally. I just trying to relay some of what I've learned so others don't have an unfortunate experience.

[Champion_Standing]

Wife and I played together for many hours and never had an encounter with a gm. But my friend and his wife have been "tested" and passed but were still told by the gm that he/she still believed they were boxing but didn't do anything to their accounts.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because his monk is twinked to the teeth, and I can play something else while my healing song keeps his health full. If we were to have a GM pop up I could alt tab or turn to my PC and respond to the GM.

Is that an admission to boxing? Sounds like one.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that an admission to boxing? Sounds like one.

For fucks sake Swish, you've sucked my cock on this forum for years. You know my brother on the forum. Its never been a secret that I have a twin brother.

To refresh your memory, here is a link to his forum account. http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=7298

Just because I want them to allow boxing, doesn't mean I'm doing it now. I've even admitted that I have a pair of accounts I PLAN to box on to see how long it takes to get caught. I got the exemption like a year ago, and probably won't ever actually do it, because I still haven't gotten around to it.

WTS Anime Weeaboo names! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EDIT: And I love how quick you are to respond to me every time I post anything. I've never had such a loyal fan. Love you too.

[Archie]

It'd be easier to get an apartment and move out.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For fucks sake Swish, you've sucked my cock on this forum for years. You know my brother on the forum. Its never been a secret that I have a twin brother.

To refresh your memory, here is a link to his forum account. http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=7298
etc
etc.

Honestly in all my time on the forums I haven't come across a bigger scumbag and that makes you hard to forget [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The fact that someone would reserve a bunch of names with no intention to use them (just sell them on) is almost as bad as running around with a bard on follow healing you.

I didn't remember you had a twin brother though, convenient for sure. I'd say the same if I wanted to box. I never remember seeing him post and sounds like a web of lies forming to keep your exemption.

What's the name of the monk and shaman? Lets make this quick and easy. Epicemu awaits.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by cyrusdark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning

lol'd

[BulletCatcher]

Originally Posted by soggygorilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some .... blah blah blah.

oh wow... you seem easily offended..You gotta apply for an IP exemption to get your wife online at the same time you want to be online. There is nothing wrong with the GMs needing to adapt and develop ways to maintain good play styles. This is a fan based server. countless time and effort have been put in by people who get no tangible reward from their tireless work. There is a lot of appreciation owed to these super fan devs. "Thanks for busting your hump(s) to make EQ a reality, also thank you for keeping up these great community conducive rule sets (no boxing, no griefing, etc.)"

You're so upset reading about people's concerns over dual boxing, yet you barely gave an effort to play on the server, and that blows your mind? You would have known about the IP problems had you read the documentation. But you didn't read the instructions.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=25

You had an unrealistic expectation. and you let your frustration get the best of you. I would encourage you to stick around. P99 is great. Apply for that IP exemption and get your wife in Norrath with you.

[PDX0621]

Originally Posted by cyrusdark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a pity-me post. Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning to others. You might just walk back to a 30-Day suspension or worse. I'm certain the GMs are aware that with strict measures, you will occasionally get your conclusion wrong. They continue it as a 'greater good' situation and I can't fault that. Just, be careful. I didn't know the extent at which I would need to camp, etc., originally. I just trying to relay some of what I've learned so others don't have an unfortunate experience.

If you read the many stories and examples from people on the dozens of virtually same threads about this same topic, you'll note that the VAST majority of people who play together with their friends, PL their friends, play in the same house, etc, do so with no problems whatsoever. They are doing what they legitimately claim to be doing. If a GM expects them of violating rules, they run a test. The VAST majority of them are able to flawlessly pass, because they were legitimately not boxing.

There's no 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning necessary. If you want to play with someone, BE THERE. Don't try and skirt the rules, don't be shady, don't do things that would lead others or the GM's to think you're boxing. If you want to "cook" or "watch TV" or otherwise "leave the room" while you are ACTUALLY THERE, simply camp out.

You may not agree with the rules, or think you're following them, but your actions admittedly warrant potential suspicion, especially considering you claimed to have been tested for similar actions in the past.

TLDR - BE THERE, ACTUALLY PLAY, STOP LEAVING AND DOING OTHER STUFF. IF YOU MUST, CAMP OUT. DON'T BE SHADY.