What exactly is Boxing?

[Ashimar]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually read the 10+ page threads on which people spent a lot of time, you'd see the same arguments you're going to get here. My guess is you didn't read those posts or any other already argued posts, or you'd have something more constructive to say.

It's clear that boxing affects the environment of the server, per Nilbog and a vast majority of the server. That's enough for them to keep it banned. If people can box, it's going to preclude a large population of people from participating in normal social interaction or grouping. It's just an obvious fact for those involved with this server and who have observed other private servers allow it.

Don't make the silly assumption that you're the first person to think "I can't think of a reason it affects me, so therefore it probably doesn't, and I won't change unless someone beats me with the facts for days on end, which isn't worth their time."

Either be intellectually honest and read the detailed arguments already put forth about it or don't bother asking. If you do, you're just proving you don't really care about getting an answer, you just feel like you should be able to box and that's all that matters to you.

Sorry if im getting to the point and asking for a Straight forward answer
(Azareth has already provided) instead of pillaging through 10 pages of
people bickering back and forth. And i dont BOX dammit! my computer isnt good enough for the task.

[Kassel]

If boxing was permitted, no one would ever group with an ex-axe wielding warrior.

[Maurk]

N00b: HEY THAT WARRIOR AND DRUID NEVER MOVE AT THE SAME TIME!!!
NeWb: OMG I KNOW!!!
N00b: ZOMG REPORTED!!!!! THE DEVS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO ANYWAYS.
NeWb: NP. I TOOK A PEEKTURE, SO NOW WE TAKE THEIR MOB?
N00b: ONLY FOR THE LULZ. LOL

It's how it goes down, every time.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry if im getting to the point and asking for a Straight forward answer
(Azeth has already provided) instead of pillaging through 10 pages of
people bickering back and forth. And i dont BOX dammit! my computer isnt good enough for the task.

I fixed his name for you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you took his word for it and immediately understood why boxing would harm the server given his examples, you're probably the rare person who doesn't want to argue it into the ground with silly theoretical reasons...so don't blame me for cutting to the chase [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was able to two-box on WoW with my laptop (as long as I kept one of them minimized, which seriously reduced my video lag), which is 4 years old, so my bet is it doesn't take much of a cpu to be able to do that.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 box duo locks down Lord/FG for weeks straight with 0 risk (enc/nec for example)

People actually box that kind of duo?

[Spewys]

2 Boxing = SUPER NERD

[Henini]

EQ Live is pretty much ruined because of boxing.

if you don't box, you can barely exp if your not a solo class. because everyone else is boxing and not interested in grouping. they can just invis to a camp with their pocket shm or whatever it is they are carrying around and exp/camp there.

Specially now with merc, 2 box ends up having a tank and a cleric merc. So, if you are playing a dps and a shm, it's uber easy to take any camp.

Of course, EQ Live want you to box so you give em more money.

Here it's different, and it's why it's so nice. you can group, you can get camps... you can play the game instead of logging on and going lfg for hours thinking it sucks and you can't do anything.

try making a noob rogue or something on live, see how fast you can catch up to the average player now. with like 85 levels and 2000+ aa's...
ramp up will be at least a year if not more.

trying to get up to par on gear when you can't camp it solo and can't get a group makes it impossible.


this should give you an idea of how things eventually degenerate when multi boxing is allowed.

Of course here, the world is much smaller, we aren't 234234 expansions in. so it would be much worst, as getting camps would be simply impossible.

[Spewys]

Never played live but my g-friend did and she said it sucked just for all the reason you just stated. I for sure would not want to run around LFG all night. Solo = Corpse and low XP.

[Japan]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ Live is pretty much ruined because of boxing.

if you don't box, you can barely exp if your not a solo class.
try making a noob rogue or something on live, see how fast you can catch up to the average player now. with like 85 levels and 2000+ aa's...
ramp up will be at least a year if not more.

it takes about a week to hit level cap on any class in EQ. You can make 50 AAs a day easily. Live sucks, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Ashimar]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If boxing was permitted, no one would ever group with an ex-axe wielding warrior.

Or anyone else for that matter.