Overcrowded

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Nottan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with this to an extent. But even off the beaten path is getting rough now with 1500+ on at primetime. The outdoor zones are all being swarmed by bards 24/7 and the indoors are crowded as hell. Unrest/MM/Guk/HHK will always be crowded but even places like SolA are seeing a ton of people. The places with low pop are generally people being PL'd as well, which makes them uncampable for actual leveling groups.

And by "the outdoor zones" you mean, some mobs 5 zones (East Karana, Overthere, Burning Woods, Lake of Ill Omen and occasionally South Karana).

Befallen
Gorge of King Xorbb
Runnyeye
Sol A
Kedge
Dalnir
Kaesora
Splitpaw
Cazic Thule
Blackburrow
Permafrost
Nurga
Droga

All those dungeons have like 1-2 people camping certain drops. Very rarely are there full groups there. Sol A is the only one listed where I've seen multiple groups present.

People stick too closely to the Easymode zones. Zones with casters or pose some other challenge people avoid.

The population can sustain another 500 in Kunark. Come Velious it could sustain another 1500~ I imagine.

The Sim Repop on Saturday brought the population up to like 1600-1700~.

[dafier]

I do not believe Velious is going to 'fix' this problem about the population. This server is top heavy and Velious has a LOT to offer but with the amount of farmers out there, it's going to ruin the game if you keep making everything NOT no drop.

It's so bad that geared, high level toons are farming low level zones for extra PP (very little). This is killing good experiences for new people like me to P99.

On live, there was a thing called /shout or /ooc and a high level that entered zone would use that and say something like "Camp check". It was a courteous thing. That isn't happening. High levels are simply running past your group and killing everything in their path or stealing your xp mobs in order to look for a named or get that quick kill/loot then leave.

THAT'S the bad part of the over crowding I see. Maybe at higher levels I will see something else in which I can contribute to this thread.

EDIT:
Forgive me, I don't mean to bash anyone nor the server. I simply see stuff on this server that I do not recall on Live. Such as selling items that should be No Drop items. I am sure there is a reason behind this but I can't imagine why this is occurring. It's about Risk vs Reward and there is none if everything is for sale.

[Atmas]

The server is very top heavy, which results in too much stuff being contested in certain spots. Also lower level characters have much better gear at this point then they did on live, so they kill much more.

Velious will help a lot of these issues.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Sampten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are certain zones in this game that still largely remain untouched. People are too focused on what loot drops rather than venturing to zones just for a crawl.

If you want to make the argument that a lot quality gear camps are perma-camped, well that's a different conversation to be had.

You're last statement is an easy fix. Make those sought after items, No Drop. DONE!

I remember on Live having a level 60 Enchanter in Kunark. Before Velious was released I made a Mage. I was only 34 or 35 when Velious was released, but got to 60 with him too.

I didn't simply run around camping anything and everything with either of my characters, I helped my guildies out a lot with quests or leveling or whatever. It seems as if this server has nothing but a bunch of campers on it always looking to reach a million platinum!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGQwMGqE-I

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server is very top heavy, which results in too much stuff being contested in certain spots. Also lower level characters have much better gear at this point then they did on live, so they kill much more.

Velious will help a lot of these issues.

I understand that Velious adds more content and therefore current camped stuff will slack a bit, but still. I am thinking about end game. When I reach level 60 am I going to get in to a guild that has the potential to do Planes + all other but can't because 1, 2, 3 or 4 guild have XXXXXX ALWAYS CAMPED!

I think I am a broken record.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're last statement is an easy fix. Make those sought after items, No Drop. DONE!

No. Not classic. DONE!

[Daldaen]

Well the good thing about Velious is, best in slot are all no drop items.

Whereas in Kunark, I think probably half of the slots for most classes have a tradeable BIS item.

This makes Platinum less useful than your DKP or Merit or Brown-nosing or whatever gets you loot in your guild's system. People won't be able to simply buy everything. Currently you can even buy the no drop loot rights. With the number of alt's people have and the amount of gear people want, buying loot rights on no drops won't happen for quite some time.

So though you may be able to farm millions of Platinum, it will be a long while before you can purchase a Dain Head Loot rights or even a Vindi BP.

[Herp]

Originally Posted by Catashe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think its mostly because the server is mostly top heavy and stays that way

This is the issue. When Velious launched, most people werent even 60. Not only is this server larger, but its top heavy. People saying its not overcrowded compared to classic are mistaken.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Not classic. DONE!

P99 isn't exactly classic. There are a LIST of changes. Minor they may be to some...either way it's not exactly classic.

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[EQJubilee]

Originally Posted by Herp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the issue. When Velious launched, most people werent even 60. Not only is this server larger, but its top heavy. People saying its not overcrowded compared to classic are mistaken.

Hopefully when Velious launches they launch a second Blue server and all the neckbeards stay on the current server allowing a better play experience for the rest of us on the new server.