small preview of the big fight !

[Guido]

Originally Posted by Deluxeee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God I'm glad I'm not a sell-out bluebie who hides behind 50 warm bodies

[quido]

God I'm glad I'm not some guy who gets hours of my time wasted by retardation because my guild leader is a reckless control freak.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Deluxeee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God I'm glad I'm not a sell-out bluebie who hides behind 50 warm bodies

Lite's awful, Azrael is in the position it's in because he's incompetent, would love to play with ya and kill some Velious dragons.

The box is a PVE box, will never be any different - sniping ur loot or killing it with a competent guild is no different.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw can we get that colgate post on what qualifies as winning please? feels appropriate

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Originally Posted by Knuckle View Post
I think the core argument here is the definition of winning, I've simplified this situation for everyone involvedwin
win/
verb
1.
be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict).
"the Mets have won four games in a row"
synonyms: take, be the victor in, be the winner of, come first in, take first prize in, triumph in, be successful in More
be the winner, come in first, be victorious, carry the day, win the day, come out on top, succeed, triumph, prevail
antonyms: lose
2.
acquire or secure as a result of a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor.
"there are hundreds of prizes to be won"
synonyms: secure, gain, garner, collect, pick up, walk away/off with, carry off; More
gain (a person's attention, support, or love), typically gradually or by effort.
"you will find it difficult to win back their attention"
synonyms: captivate, steal, snare, capture
"she won his heart"
gain the support or favor of someone by action or persuasion.
"her sense of humor had won him over at once"
manage to succeed or achieve something by effort.
"talent won out over bureaucracy"
archaic
manage to reach (a place) by effort.
"many lived to win the great cave"
obtain (ore) from a mine.
noun
noun: win; plural noun: wins
1.
a successful result in a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor; a victory.
"a win against Norway"
synonyms: victory, triumph, conquest
"a 1–0 win"

Furthermore, we can tailor the definition of winning to the meaning intended for ever quest PvP. I don't think any have doubted that winning PvP in ever quest is of the following conditions:

1.) Winning a 1v1 duel.
2.) Yellow text without dying, mostly notable in world PvP.
3.) Guild level PvP can have a few ways to reach condition "win".
a.) Disrupting or preventing a raid with a small number of opposing guild, even if this results in total loss.
Example: guild a wants to slay naggy with 25. Opposing force prevents nagafen from being slain with only 10 players, this would be a victory condition for the smaller guild.
b) Defeating an opposing guild and claiming objective. Example: a guild wants to slay cazic Thule, guild B comes and defeats the other guild and slays cazic Thule. Guild B is the winner.
Example 2: Guild a battles guild b, guild b claims cazic Thule but then receives a total wipe to guild a. In this case guild b wins condition objective, but guild a wins total defeat(guild b requires consent of other guild to retrieve corpses, loss of zone control).
3.) Loss of majority in non contested zone: group/guild PvP in world zone, with no raid objective. Loss of zone control in non raid environment resulting in consent to be rezzed or recover corpses.

These are some clear ways to help understand if your guild has won or lost PvP in everquest. I hope this has helped clear some confusion on the subject.

I think I shall wiki this shit.
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[Pumpkinlatte]

where is full video

would like to see my dumbass get killed

[Susvain2]

My favorite part is ragnaros mom yelling and almost giving away your position

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Solitary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't sitting and standing damage the same now? Thought it was changed or something

Could be wrong, but I think hitting a sitting target guarantees max dmg roll on all attacks that land.

But what do I know, I'm a ranja. My damage is pathetic no matter what.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol those first dudes got stomped hard.

16 v 50 only ever gonna end 1 way tho.

Yeah, the first few guys got killed 16 v 4 or so. Not sure if it is a surprise that 16 people can get a couple kills on a large unbuffed group as they are porting into a zone. Azrael obviously thought they had the advantage before the fight, even though they knew how many Holocaust had, because of the level/gear/buff/position advantage. Now they are acting like under dogs that never had a chance while having video of them laughing at what an advantage they were going to have before the fight.

A group of 16 dudes get a couple kills and then jump off the island and somehow this incident brought meaning to their life for one more day.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle View Post
I think the core argument here is the definition of winning, I've simplified this situation for everyone involvedwin
win/
verb
1.
be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict).
"the Mets have won four games in a row"
synonyms: take, be the victor in, be the winner of, come first in, take first prize in, triumph in, be successful in More
be the winner, come in first, be victorious, carry the day, win the day, come out on top, succeed, triumph, prevail
antonyms: lose
2.
acquire or secure as a result of a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor.
"there are hundreds of prizes to be won"
synonyms: secure, gain, garner, collect, pick up, walk away/off with, carry off; More
gain (a person's attention, support, or love), typically gradually or by effort.
"you will find it difficult to win back their attention"
synonyms: captivate, steal, snare, capture
"she won his heart"
gain the support or favor of someone by action or persuasion.
"her sense of humor had won him over at once"
manage to succeed or achieve something by effort.
"talent won out over bureaucracy"
archaic
manage to reach (a place) by effort.
"many lived to win the great cave"
obtain (ore) from a mine.
noun
noun: win; plural noun: wins
1.
a successful result in a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor; a victory.
"a win against Norway"
synonyms: victory, triumph, conquest
"a 1–0 win"

Furthermore, we can tailor the definition of winning to the meaning intended for ever quest PvP. I don't think any have doubted that winning PvP in ever quest is of the following conditions:

1.) Winning a 1v1 duel.
2.) Yellow text without dying, mostly notable in world PvP.
3.) Guild level PvP can have a few ways to reach condition "win".
a.) Disrupting or preventing a raid with a small number of opposing guild, even if this results in total loss.
Example: guild a wants to slay naggy with 25. Opposing force prevents nagafen from being slain with only 10 players, this would be a victory condition for the smaller guild.
b) Defeating an opposing guild and claiming objective. Example: a guild wants to slay cazic Thule, guild B comes and defeats the other guild and slays cazic Thule. Guild B is the winner.
Example 2: Guild a battles guild b, guild b claims cazic Thule but then receives a total wipe to guild a. In this case guild b wins condition objective, but guild a wins total defeat(guild b requires consent of other guild to retrieve corpses, loss of zone control).
3.) Loss of majority in non contested zone: group/guild PvP in world zone, with no raid objective. Loss of zone control in non raid environment resulting in consent to be rezzed or recover corpses.

These are some clear ways to help understand if your guild has won or lost PvP in everquest. I hope this has helped clear some confusion on the subject.

I think I shall wiki this shit.
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both guilds "won"

holocaust goal: do sky

azrael goal: get yt (as clearly stated by lite in the video)

holo did sky, az got more yt.

we are all winner's (except me cuz wasn't there)

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A group of 16 dudes get a couple kills and then jump off the island and somehow this incident brought meaning to their life for one more day.

i think you are confusing "meaning to their life" with "having fun slaying nerds in a game"

get a grip bro