"Classic" feeling shifting?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by captnamazing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never belonged on the moon

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[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Duncon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the only thing that has kept the economy from complete destruction is the lack of a bazaar. The pain in the ass that is EC keeps a lot of items off the market and a lot of plat in the banks. If that flooded in through easy 24/7 access to goods in a bazaar the whole thing would implode.

You are EXACTLY right, the bazaar had a huge impact on player to player contact. I would say it was the most destructive force in EQ. I loathed the release of Luclin for this very reason. I cannot spew enough hatred for the bazaar, we will never reconcile and I will go to my grave cursing they day it was born. Bazaar killed Classic End of Story.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bazaar was one of the best changes possible.

When you no longer have to sit trying to sell your junk for hours, and instead can AFK overnight and sell stuff, it is fantastic.

Bazaar would bring so much low-end gear into the system. Right now, most of those 50-100 plat items I get from level 30-50 areas aren't worth my time selling. Instead I will just vendor or destroy them. Having an avenue to dump them on a trader and AFK and they get magically sold is great.

Plus you don't have to directly deal with people who make lowball offers, people who undercut you or people who resell. Stuff still happens but because you're AFK it's all out of sight and out of mind. You sell it at your listed price or you don't sell it.

You sicken me, I puke when I hear your voice garble the filth you spew. I hope they make a PVP server and b4 you create a character they ask are u for the pro-bazaar or anti-bazaar, and split us into teams. I would fear kite you every chance I had to make your very existence on that server reprehensible. I gotta puke now blah

[Ravager]

Both EC and the Bazaar suck.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's one thing asking someone to group, exping or questing with someone.

It's another dealing with:

"That earring for 5k, lol man that's a piece of crap, I'll give you 3k"
"Aww 5k, I really only have 2765 plat, can ya do that?"
"Hey I'll take that earring for 500" - 2 min later - "WTS earring 700"

The same people who hated PoK books are the ones who didn't play porters. I play a 60 druid and 52 wizard. I'm almost never /role on either of them. I get request for pickups in Emerald Jungle or Unrest occasionally. I politely say nope, I'm busy. Most people understand and say thanks anyways. Cool. But sometimes you get the dude offering you 30 plat for the port and complaining when you don't feel compelled to travel 15min across Norrath to port them for less than a hill Giants worth of platinum.

Also PoK book complaining is the dumbest thing in the world on this server. People REGULARLY ask for a port from WC to Lavastorm or EC to SRo. It's 2 fucking zones. Run. But heaven forbid you could click a book and travel yourself. Instead you want to inconvenience someone else, spend their mana and time and quite often not pay them for it.

Don't get me wrong, I do port people, almost never accept plat, and SoW them on their way. The general population of this server however feels entitled to these services and in the same breath they ask for a port with, they will criticizes the very features that unburdened players like myself from providing them.

I don't have any issues porting friends or guildmates. However the "interaction" you refer to from getting a port from a random guy is basically non existent. 95%+ of my ports involve these tells:

"Can I get a port from X to Y"
"Thanks"

Occasionally:

"Sorry corpse run otherwise I'd donate"
Or
"You sure you don't want plat"

Often:

"Can I get a INSERT BUFFS HERE?"

Shit isn't interacting with me at all. You interact more with the guy at the liquor store or the woman at the grocery store scanning your items.

PS - Yes, I am salty of that argument consistently being made on these boards. No one gives a shit about talking to their porter, they just want their port.

Hmm I remember Druids crying a lot about being useless and not being able to find groups after fast travel/nexus came out. And the guy buying for 500 and selling for 700, happens everyday in pawnshops across the World that's probably the most realistic part of EQ.

[myriverse]

I remember Druids always complaining about not being able to find groups.

just saying...

[Taryth]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a fine position to have.

I just tire of the people who complain that PoK books made the world smaller, they reduced interaction with players and yet on this server expect me to port them to a zone 2 zones away, sow them and buff them. Especially if these are /role or /Anon people who have 0 problem hiding their class and never making themselves available to requests for assistance/interacting with other players. Yet will always send me requests for ports buffs or PLs.

PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. If there were a solid PoP locked server Id be there in a heartbeat. It makes me very sad that closed down Al'Kabor still. Would've easily paid a Strommhammer level subscription to play on that server even though it had a single patch and almost no support for the past year of its existence.

The Al'Kabor server lives on in takproject.net.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm I remember Druids crying a lot about being useless and not being able to find groups after fast travel/nexus came out. And the guy buying for 500 and selling for 700, happens everyday in pawnshops across the World that's probably the most realistic part of EQ.

Useless Druids cried about being useless.

Good druids saw they got upgraded mana regen, DPS, Healing and buff utility and knew Luclin/PoP were awesome for soloing, grouping and raiding druids.

I don't really care about it being realistic, this is a fantasty game. There is a reason Used Car Salesman have a reputation for being scummy. I just loved not having to directly deal with those individuals once the Bazaar came out. Never have to listen to their pitches about why GEBs jumped back up to 5k or why my Rain Caller is only worth 1.5k. In the Bazaar they pay my price or they don't. I don't have to waste time sitting there or listening to their complaining about prices.

Bazaar was fantastic.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by mtb tripper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets go ahead and open legacy of ykesha too?

MMmmm frogs! Food Network MMO!

[Erydan Ouragan]

Totally agree with Daldaen here, PoP was the best.

Also in PoP, Everquest has achieved something pretty rare in the world of MMOs: an almost perfect balance.

In PoP, classes were in that sweet, golden spot where everyone felt pretty powerful, had a reasonable number of abilities and spells without feeling bloated or over the top.

With AAs and new spells, druids and shamans could reliably heal but clerics were still needed for progression/anything serious, rangers were finally viable with a bow, wizard dps became desirable, everyone could crit, everyone had powerful cooldowns and cool abilities.

So add that, plus all what Daldaen said and you quickly realize that PoP was basically the golden age of EQ and to me, that's where we should be going. Not classic, better than classic.

The Golden Age.