Patch Questions/debate....anyone know?

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Silent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless the pvp code being enabled nilbog spoke of in ooc, and what was said in this thread is true then something is wrong. Because in /duel currently the highest level tash only does -41MR I tested 5 times, twice on myself. I don't see how /duel is flipping a switch that auto enables pvp specific changes only.

I haven't done enough testing to check out AC, I do know I ran around for a while being hit by flight arrows with a windstriker ranger for 1dmg a few times, up to 3-5, average 20 with the highest hit a 130 but that isn't much to base off yet(beta buff sK template).

Trying to land a backstab on a moving target is next to impossible, You can still get them off occasionally I suppose it will take ALOT of getting used to new hit boxes to time perfectly when to hit. Hell I have ran up to some people in a duel as they stood still, and got close enough to them I should be in hitbox range(weapons touching char) and nada.

This is my favorite part of a patch, when they finally fix an exploit that was set to easy mode and the low skilled pvp player's bitch endlessly.

Lol rogues didn't backstab people while running, they had to wait for casters to stop and cast or a melee to go for a joust.

Welcome to classic Everquest pvp, shit's hard, shit takes skill, and this shit ain't for everybody.

[Colgate]

on the beta, clients weren't showing the correct resist values

tash would show -39 or whatever but according to the server, it was -78

[Lasher]

Didnt the resist debuff patch actually orignally go in velious? I played an ench and vaguelly remember it was velious patch that actually gave the 50% increase in power with debuffs

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt the resist debuff patch actually orignally go in velious? I played an ench and vaguelly remember it was velious patch that actually gave the 50% increase in power with debuffs

We also had 9 months of Kunark on live before Velious launched and when velious launched 90% of the 60's weren't BIS. So it seems to work itself out.

[Kergan]

Yeah classic is fucked here for PVP. Nothing has ever been classic here regarding pvp though so who cares? Resists have always been different then live, hitbox, melee damage, debuffs, dispel, ruleset (no server had +/- 8 ever and RZ had +/- 4 but item loot), item recharging, items like trak tooth/hoops working in PVP, etc.

There is literally nothing classic about PVP on R99 aside from the fact you can attack another player.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah classic is fucked here for PVP. Nothing has ever been classic here regarding pvp though so who cares? Resists have always been different then live, hitbox, melee damage, debuffs, dispel, ruleset (no server had +/- 8 ever and RZ had +/- 4 but item loot), item recharging, items like trak tooth/hoops working in PVP, etc.

There is literally nothing classic about PVP on R99 aside from the fact you can attack another player.

VZ/TZ was +/- 8 levels. Nice one.

[Kergan]

Ok, I didn't play on those shitty servers so I stand corrected. They were team based though so it just further proves my point anyway.

[gortimer]

Jousting was really hard on live. you dont hit attack when your characters are closest. You learned the range and hit it either before or after, depending on your ping or shit pc. I doubt i ever landed a backstab on a running player unless i was sow'ed chasing them and they were not, or they were snared. Melee missed a lot. unuber monks and rogues did not fuck up uber pure casters at.fuckin.all. no way. gear ruled, not innate melee damage buff.
I'm happy to see a lot of things being implemented. I hope the DEV crew continue to update it and listen to the community and make this damn thing classic.

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by gortimer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jousting was really hard on live. you dont hit attack when your characters are closest. You learned the range and hit it either before or after, depending on your ping or shit pc. I doubt i ever landed a backstab on a running player unless i was sow'ed chasing them and they were not, or they were snared. Melee missed a lot. unuber monks and rogues did not fuck up uber pure casters at.fuckin.all. no way. gear ruled, not innate melee damage buff.
I'm happy to see a lot of things being implemented. I hope the DEV crew continue to update it and listen to the community and make this damn thing classic.

I never even seen this guy before and I know he PvP'd more on live than most of the shit talkers here. Because the shit he is saying is just true.

Fist Bump to a true OG pvper speaking truth.

[slizzy]

that is the problem...there aren't any unuber monks or rogues past 56. By the time most monks/rogues hit 56 they are already better geared then most live rogues/monks were at 60!

Server has been sitting at end game for way to long to even have 'classic' discussions anymore. The hit box change is going to help a ton but that is going to be balanced out with the resist changes going in.