Would you donate for a new blue server?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hell I am not knocking the Devs, they do a lot more than we think, but Velious is not even out or the purported "Teams Server" and you really think they are going to start ANOTHER server??? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well there's speculation about what'll happen with Teams after it launches. It's always been stated that they'll merge red into teams (later on) or merge teams into red if it's not a success.

What would happen to that extra server I wonder? Might be the same server as Velious beta if we're honest. But long term it shouldn't be wasted [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raev]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the "pay2win" sentiment is that you're offering up money to transfer to a server where acquisition of pixels will be faster/easier.

See, all of these Class C style arguments make sense until you realize that our endgame isn't classic (variance).

[Snizatcher]

Just throw the tag "Hardcore" on the Class C's server so they can all pat each other on the back and put "Hardcore" on their forum signatures. That should make everyone happy.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See, all of these Class C style arguments make sense until you realize that our endgame isn't classic (variance).

Without variance though it's even more of an FTE fest.

"Same time next week guys?"
"See you there"

[Troubled]

No bush towers option. Voted next closest thing.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without variance though it's even more of an FTE fest.

"Same time next week guys?"
"See you there"

And variance fits perfectly with the race that class-C wants. If/when everything is on a strict rotation, there's no need for variance.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without variance though it's even more of an FTE fest.

I am not saying 0 variance would be better; I'm saying that all this pay2win garbage is just that, garbage. Project 2000 would be much more classic.

Anyway, it's not going to happen.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the "pay2win" sentiment is that you're offering up money to transfer to a server where acquisition of pixels will be faster/easier.

This. I am not trying to make it sound evil. Pay2win is viable on modern MMO's. A level playing field is something with rules that are easily applicable that all types of players can participate in whether it be casual or hardcore. What you are proposing to have caters to one type of player and you are saying you will pay to have it.

We need to work on the issues with this raid scene with common sense and make concrete rules that are easily understandable with very little gray area....To have a level playing field.

[hightower187]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Rathe had a full rotation, it's not un classic.

This is true. My guild Noble Blade shared rotations with all the other guilds on the server. Never was a problem.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not saying 0 variance would be better; I'm saying that all this pay2win garbage is just that, garbage. Project 2000 would be much more classic.

Anyway, it's not going to happen.

Me and Loraen rarely agree. I wouldn't say 0 variance. Lower it enough to keep the race start time random, but not burn folks out. Limit the amount of people a guild wanting to compete for the mob can have in zone.