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[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda strange how one person can have so much valuables

I could understand if there were a few.

It's really rather simple.

Intelligence.


In every MMO i've played, i've built a core amount of capital and starting building ways to create money based on game mechanics. I started my wizard in tailoring and found ways to be basically a manufacturing plant for money.

In WoW, when there was a time limit on how frequently an alchemist could transmute Arcanite, I leveled 6 characters to the point where they could all transmute Arcanite (I think they had to be 34 or 39 or something). I saved enough cash to buy Arcane crystals off the market and gathered the other component (I think it was thorium). I then made an Arcanite factory out of those characters, gauging a certain amount of profit for each transmute. Every few days i'd log in and do another round of transmutes, sell the arcanite, and all this while I was gearing up my main.

He obviously built an amount of capital suitable to cover the operational costs of consignment (i.e. the 50% deposit he puts on items) while he waits for fruition of sales - it's actually a really simple business model based on selling "time" and reducing the transaction cost of business. It eventually results in lower overall prices for everyone because it greases the wheels of the market and gets goods to those who want them more quickly.


The only question I have is whether Bob actually plays the game, or if he just buys and sells all the time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zarniwooop]

I knew a guy back on Vazaelle that hadn't actually played the game in years.

He played just long enough to build up a reasonable amount of plat (I don't know what reasonable was). He then moved into the bazaar and never left it again. Literally.

I used to deal with him on occasion as he had just about every rare/awesome item for sale at one point or another and we started to chat a bit and he told me he hadn't moved from the bazaar in something like 2 years. He had never seen the last 3-4 expansions outside of the bazaar, he just loved being a trader.

If you dedicate yourself to one thing to the exclusion of all others, you become rather good at it.

[JackFlash]

If you read Bob's auction thread you would know where he gets his valuables.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's really rather simple.

Intelligence.


In every MMO i've played, i've built a core amount of capital and starting building ways to create money based on game mechanics. I started my wizard in tailoring and found ways to be basically a manufacturing plant for money.

In WoW, when there was a time limit on how frequently an alchemist could transmute Arcanite, I leveled 6 characters to the point where they could all transmute Arcanite (I think they had to be 34 or 39 or something). I saved enough cash to buy Arcane crystals off the market and gathered the other component (I think it was thorium). I then made an Arcanite factory out of those characters, gauging a certain amount of profit for each transmute. Every few days i'd log in and do another round of transmutes, sell the arcanite, and all this while I was gearing up my main.

He obviously built an amount of capital suitable to cover the operational costs of consignment (i.e. the 50% deposit he puts on items) while he waits for fruition of sales - it's actually a really simple business model based on selling "time" and reducing the transaction cost of business. It eventually results in lower overall prices for everyone because it greases the wheels of the market and gets goods to those who want them more quickly.


The only question I have is whether Bob actually plays the game, or if he just buys and sells all the time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and by the time it took you to get at least 6 lvl 34s. I had a lvl 60 with 30k gold from just finishing up the quests at max lvl that i didnt do to level that give 14gold each

[Vonkaar]

Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what you CAN do is

I log virtuosos in

I call my friend up, have him log in my alt

subtle, "I have friends" post. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Combo]

Logic tree for this one is pretty simple.

1.) Do you have two characters logged onto P99 under the same IP address?

No - Stop
Yes - See 2.)

2.) Do you have an IP exemption?

No - You are banned, maybe even by IP.
Yes - You're fine.

LOGIC TREE COMPLETE

[quellren]

Originally Posted by Combo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Logic tree for this one is pretty simple.

1.) Do you have two characters logged onto P99 under the same IP address?

Yes - See 2.)

2.) Do you have an IP exemption?

Yes - You're fine.

LOGIC TREE COMPLETE

Not really. You might go unnoticed for a while (maybe even a long while) but if you get caught, this is by definition 'Boxing' and you can expect to get hammered.

Your logic tree needs another condition, Is the other character played by, and belongs to someone else?
Yes - You're fine
No - Don't get butt-hurt when you get bannz0r'd.

I don't really feel like searching for it, but either Uthgaard or Nilbog answered a thread very much like this one. The guy asked specifically if he and a friend could buy a character to be used for buffs, and the answer was Yes, but *only* if each person was logged onto ONE char at a time, i.e. P1 logs onto cleric, buffs P2's lowbie then logs to P1 lowbie , P2 logs onto cleric and buffs P1 lowbie, then logs back to P2 lowbie.

It was pretty well stated that anything else is boxing.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and by the time it took you to get at least 6 lvl 34s. I had a lvl 60 with 30k gold from just finishing up the quests at max lvl that i didnt do to level that give 14gold each

Not in /played time. I worked the level and a half exp bonus for all it was worth since I had limited play time.

So no, with equal played time, you didn't have more money than I had (particularly on a high population pvp server, which does tend to slow down questing).

[Romantic]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and by the time it took you to get at least 6 lvl 34s. I had a lvl 60 with 30k gold from just finishing up the quests at max lvl that i didnt do to level that give 14gold each

no you didn't

[Kich]

Originally Posted by Romantic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no you didn't

Glad I'm not the only one who recognized the bs there. Hell if I were dedicated to that cause, make 6 hunters, could get them all to level 34 in under a month pretty casually.

Level 60 + 30k gold in a month? First off, at WoW release that function of getting money for max level quests didn't even exist. Secondly, there aren't enough quests (literally) in the game to generate that much money in vanilla WoW. There were only ~300 quests (tops) that you could even DO at max level. Most of which didn't actually produce money.