Catherins attempt at lawyering

[knix]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be correct.

This Farcical conversation is so entertaining.

Chest wanting us all to believe that Derubael and Sirken did not treat BDA fairly. That he has revised his own memory of events, so that he (BDA) is completely innocent.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Credence Clearwater Revival? I know that song. It's the one that's in all the movies about Vietnam, right?

You got it! Before the 90's though, then they switched to Pearl Jam

[Aviann]

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[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get trolled, Chest. I was just starting to enjoy our dialogue for once - I think the forum community was enjoying it as well.

Your officer and the Taken officer essentially described the entire situation to us. We'll accept a testimony like that from the party being scrutinized for a violation as hard evidence. So while there may not have been a significant amount of photographic, video, or log-based evidence, the scenario described in as much detail as possible by the officers present matched up with what limited resources we had to review on our end.

Honesty is most definitely the best policy, and your officer did the right thing by not trying to hide anything. We will always be more lenient with people or a group of people who are immediately up-front about a potential violation, be it a mistake or on purpose. I know you guys feel the removal of a Class R Nagafen was too much, but I think it was a light punishment for a light crime, and was our best option at the time - and still would be our best option now.

As a side note, Class R guilds do have compensation to offer Class C guilds during a dispute, but obviously giving up a coveted Class R spawn is a hard hit to guilds who only get a few each month to begin with. Still, in many situations that may be preferable to a GM decision.

Well there went 3 or 4 petitions Derubael could have taken care of. Thanks chest.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope that's not what Chest is saying! That would mean the leader of BDA is lying to the public! Both BDA and Taken admitted to having a total of 3 trackers between the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

[Juryiel]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you guys feel the removal of a Class R Nagafen was too much, but I think it was a light punishment for a light crime, and was our best option at the time - and still would be our best option now.

As a side note, Class R guilds do have compensation to offer Class C guilds during a dispute, but obviously giving up a coveted Class R spawn is a hard hit to guilds who only get a few each month to begin with. Still, in many situations that may be preferable to a GM decision.

Not in BDA or involved in that scenario in any way but I'm curious about this. Hypothetically a class R guild could just for one round leave the rotation if they receive such a punishment from the GM. Especially so if the other class R guilds side with them in a dispute involving class C. So which naggy would they then be banned from? Or does a guild messing up mean that everyone in class R is bound to the player-made rotation until that guild's turn on that mob comes up again? I guess I don't know what GMs would do if the guild in question decided to be competitive within class R for a single spawn of said mob, other than ban that guild from ALL naggys until the naggy that would have been their turn, or enforced the class R rotation until said guild served its punishment, both of which seem excessive.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does derubael think class R and class C guilds should be punished differently?

Class C guilds have disputes, forfeit mobs that they may or may not even have gone after.

CLass R guilds do not have disputes with eachother.

When a Class C guild has a violation: dinacarl on orders from umbrella, intentionally trains BDA in fear. clear evidence to support. GMs tell TMO to stay out of fear for 3 days in which an FFA draco spawned.

When a Class R guild has a violation: 16 people from one guild attack a dying dragon for faction hit on a FFA Naggy.

Ftfy

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does derubael think class R and class C guilds should be punished differently?

Because the reason why we have this stupid raid stalemate is because what is now known as the class C guilds, or a majority thereof, didn't want to let anyone else have fun.


Not saying that is his opinion, but I could definitely feel the logic behind what would be the answer.

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by eqmaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Like a shit version of my immaculate sig

[Heebo]

Also - why do you dumb fucks want naggy faction hits?