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Old 10-19-2010, 08:16 AM
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I never understood the hate for rangers in classic (pre kunark).

A lot of my exploration was done with a RL ranger buddy. RNG and PAL are a damn fine duo... a swiss army knife if you will. I remember many a person telling the two of us "I've never seen anyone squeeze as much out of a class as you two."

Hm. Maybe it was the player, and not the class.
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Old 10-19-2010, 08:32 AM
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Rangers will get good when endless quiver comes out...oh wait!
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Old 10-19-2010, 10:31 AM
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Hm. Maybe it was the player, and not the class.
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Old 10-19-2010, 10:55 AM
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I don't remember begging for Wizards ever. Are there mobs that drop a lot faster from spell damage?
Come Kunark you'll have AE groups, Skyfire/EJ ports, Lures (VS), and a better selection of quad spells.

A badly played wizard can fill a spot in a group as a random damage class, but the stigma that all wizards are afk leeches is misguided. They exist, but you should easily be able to tell the difference between a good and a bad wizard.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:14 PM
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Knowing what we now know about the game, shamans starting with kunark are by far the most powerful solo and group contrib class in the game by a very wide margin. Kunark introduced the >50% slows that became the gamechangers.

Don't ever remember wizards being high on any list. rangers not until they upped their ranged damage which was very late in the cycle. the bottom three were necro ranger wizard second necro because necro crap didn't stack.

rangers got hate because they are strong below 30. they get much weaker later, but everyone's impressions are formed early. (IMO)
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:45 PM
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The worst player so far on this server that I have encountered has been a Enchanter who must have soloed his way up. He rooted before mez, I mean after the pull he roots. This is a single pull. So we are tanking, me and two monks. I could get hate but then he roots, and the mob turns, then mez. By the time the root breaks he goes for the chanter.

When we say don't root, mez adds only, he rage dumps the group.

I am playing a ranger. In classic the conventional wisdom puts me near the bottom and him near the top.

Some classes are fool proof, but not for professional fools.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:58 PM
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just FYI, there was a census per level done awhile back, and it showed rangers, wizards, rogues as the least played classes i believe. It was done with the computer with nilbog. I imagine the numbers are quite off though, because it was done when the population, at max, was about 350-400 iirc.

I think a new one should be done, the code is somewhere on these forums, nilbog just has to input it and post the output.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:07 PM
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Would be nice to have a weekly dump of population stats. Maybe just monthly.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:26 PM
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Would be nice to have a weekly dump of population stats. Maybe just monthly.
wont happen. once every 6-12 months would be nice.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:03 PM
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Rangers are a finesse class. Few people notice when the ranger tops off the enchanter and the shaman between mobs, roots the mob with mez aggro next to the tank, keeps the small strength buff on the melee in the absence of druid or shaman, snares and roots or kites adds, or switches to bow damage and stays alive during an aoe fight. They just notice that the dps number from ranger isn't as big as rogue and the rogue can drag corpses after a wipe.

Most people just want a big hammer to use on every problem--complete heal, disease clowd, mez, mage pet, lich, slow. They want to use a big overpowered ability and not worry about doing the little things. That's why most druids, rangers, paladins and warriors suck right now. All those classes are about doing the small things. There's no one button to mash.
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