Would you play on red if:

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain the loot and scoot rules exactly. I don't want to open the PvP forums they are too caustic and toxic.

If I kill a noob, and they call for loot and scoot... They have to leave the zone? The camp? For how long? Or does it mean that you killed them once, when they're back you can't kill them again for awhile and actually have to deal with them?

When you get killed in PVP, call "LNS" in OOC or in the zone you were killed in and that player can't kill you again while you loot your corpse. You loot and leave the zone and can't come back for an hour.

[Sampten]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you sound like you give up easily

Hardly...I just have a low tolerance for D-bags. The perception of PVP is that it's riddled with D-bags.

Sorry but I don't see the "fun" in killing lvl 1s or 10s when you're lvl 50. I don't see the point of it, at all. What's it accomplish? What's the purpose? The purpose is somebody who started on Day 1 just wants to screw with people. Right...well good for them, maybe they ought to find something better to do with their time.

In the GTA5 instance, Do I see the fun in being insta-killed and then having others stake out the respawn point (hospitals) to pick off whomever comes out of them? No, it's stupid. It's childish, it's unnecessary.

And that's why PVP populations are low.

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by Sampten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry but I don't see the "fun" in killing lvl 1s or 10s when you're lvl 50.

On red, can only PVP others who are +/- 4 levels from your own. They
can only loot your coin, so if you are smart, you bank often or buy gems.
No XP loss on PVP death either.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Sampten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never have been one that's into PVP for that reason. In fact, when GTA 5 got online mode, I decided to check it out. I hadn't been in the game for 10 minutes and somebody offed me. I respawned at the hospital and I hadn't taken 20 steps outside it and somebody offed me again. Respawn at same hospital...guess what, was picked off. Needless to say I never played GTA5 online mode again, nor will I.

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you sound like you give up easily

This is a game man, it's supposed to be fun. If you play a game for awhile and you're not having fun, you should quit and go play something else that is fun. If you're mentality is "I'm going to keep suffering through this game as long as I can even though I'm not having fun" then something is wrong with your approach to games.

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a game man, it's supposed to be fun. If you play a game for awhile and you're not having fun, you should quit and go play something else that is fun. If you're mentality is "I'm going to keep suffering through this game as long as I can even though I'm not having fun" then something is wrong with your approach to games.

What's "fun" about sitting LFG in Karnor's every night (because thats the only zone to XP in for your level) hoping to get a group which will net you 1 blue of XP in three hours?

Been there, done that on blue...

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Malone88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's "fun" about sitting LFG in Karnor's every night (because thats the only zone to XP in for your level) hoping to get a group which will net you 1 blue of XP in three hours?

Been there, done that on blue...

I'll admit, that's not fun, but it's not the server's fault. Norath is filled with places to hunt. If no one needs you in Karnor's there's Sebilis. Or City of Mist, or Howling Stones, or even Chardok. And that's just the Kunark dungeons: there's outdoor zones (Skyfire, Burning Woods, Timorous Deep) or old world dungeons (Permafrost, Sol B, Kedge Keep) or even outdoor old world zones (er zone, Ocean of Tears).

Also, you don't need a full group to get XP, just a good duo or trio. And you don't have to wait for someone else to start one, you can start one yourself. So if you're sitting LFG in KC waiting for a group obviously that's not fun, but all you need to do to have fun is /tell someone "hey EQ has a ton of zones we can XP in, want to go duo in one?"

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll admit, that's not fun, but it's not the server's fault. Norath is filled with places to hunt. If no one needs you in Karnor's there's Sebilis. Or City of Mist, or Howling Stones, or even Chardok. And that's just the Kunark dungeons: there's outdoor zones (Skyfire, Burning Woods, Timorous Deep) or old world dungeons (Permafrost, Sol B, Kedge Keep) or even outdoor old world zones (er zone, Ocean of Tears).

Also, you don't need a full group to get XP, just a good duo or trio. And you don't have to wait for someone else to start one, you can start one yourself. So if you're sitting LFG in KC waiting for a group obviously that's not fun, but all you need to do to have fun is /tell someone "hey EQ has a ton of zones we can XP in, want to go duo in one?"

Reality is:

1) You have to have the right class to make a good duo.
2) To move to other zones, you probably need a porter.
3) To move to other zones, you probably need a cleric because you
don't want it to be a negative XP night if you happen to die.
4) Most of those zones you listed are bring your own group, not duo.
5) Good luck doing any XPing in Chardok. (Chardok wide open on red, btw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

Alot of folks, like myself, have a 2-4 hour window each night to play, so moving
to different zones chews up about half that time.

[Malone88]

Let's consider a similar scenario on red:

Global OOC: Group Looking for more! 50+

What zone you in? Burning Woods
Do you care what class? No, any class, no min-maxers
Do you have a cleric? No, XP so fast you will make up XP in 5 minutes if you die.
Any griefers there? No, they're too busy in CoM and KC.
On my way.

Chances are, you prob know half the people in the group already because you've
grouped with them before.

Only tough part might be finding a port, but I usually take care of that
because I can port. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Malone88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's consider a similar scenario on red:

Global OOC: Group Looking for more! 50+

What zone you in? Burning Woods
Do you care what class? No, any class, no min-maxers
Do you have a cleric? No, XP so fast you will make up XP in 5 minutes if you die.
Any griefers there? No, they're too busy in CoM and KC.
On my way.

Chances are, you prob know half the people in the group already because you've
grouped with them before.

Only tough part might be finding a port, but I usually take care of that
because I can port. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you got an empty server and you choose BW to level in? lol wut

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Malone88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reality is:

1) You have to have the right class to make a good duo.
2) To move to other zones, you probably need a porter.
3) To move to other zones, you probably need a cleric because you
don't want it to be a negative XP night if you happen to die.
4) Most of those zones you listed are bring your own group, not duo.
5) Good luck doing any XPing in Chardok. (Chardok wide open on red, btw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

Alot of folks, like myself, have a 2-4 hour window each night to play, so moving
to different zones chews up about half that time.

I just see a lot of excuses there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

1) What exactly is the "wrong class" for a duo? Plus, there's always the option of a trio
2) This is true on any server. Plus, you gave the example of sitting in Karnor's, and (on Blue at least) druids are constantly porting out of there
3) I'm sorry, but if you need someone to follow you around and fix your boo boos when you mess up, maybe you should stick to six man groups. But I know a lot of other people explore Norath just fine without a pocket cleric.
4) Again, which zone exactly? Even in Sebilis a duo can do the entrance area.
5) Chardok is actually better than most zones, because so few people go there on account of the AOE groups. But if you do go there, you can pretty much take any camp you want and the AOE group has to avoid you.