Spells: Resist issue since patch thread

[Erati]

Dald, Glamour is -20 RM

[Daldaen]

Huh for some reason 10 stuck in my head, I thought it was crappier than it really is!

But still... Charm durations on planar trash works just fine for a level 60. I don't have a 50 to test it on though.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon, the reason charm is more prolific over here than live (like many of unclassic behaviors on this server) is far more due to other factors than difference in game mechanics.

1) Stable Connection, both in terms of lag and disconnects. Self explanatory.

2) Technique for breaks not being common knowledge.

3) Levels. The vast majority of even the hardcore players in their server's #1 raid guilds weren't 60 until Mid-Late Velious. 55+ were fine in any zone. Kunark was mostly designed to get to 60, it was not designed for level 60 play. As such, the content (and prior content such as the Planes) is laughably easy to a group of 60s. The majority of the stuff that 60 enchanters are charming over here is level 45-50. 10-15 levels on a target will allow for a 5 minute or so average charm.


4) Complete knowledge of zones, accompanying npcs, and general lack of fear of CR. In my opinion, this is probably the biggest reason. I have 0 fear of death on Project 1999. Exp doesn't matter and I know there is no zone that I cannot CR myself out of with relative ease. Come Velious, you can drag my corpse to under Lady Nevedaria's belly on a full spawn - it won't matter to me, I'll fish it out.

In addition to the above, I don't believe players realized how powerful charm was until dire charm, but that is more of an opinion of mine.

The best resource that we have on charm during this era is Xornn's guide thats been posted before.

Not buying any of this. What else you got?

I'm just still standing over here... ya know with the lvl 50 druids charming shiverbacks (ya the lower con one, fine) reliably in fear being completely f'd up. Or every enchanter on the server in seb grabbing a dar knight as a pet no problem like that shit's free.

In fact, every tick there should be at LEAST a 5% chance of the charm breaking (let's say just the base chance that should be working). Is that even the case right now? Doesn't seem like it. Same with roots lasting crazy durations.... even on, you guessed it planar trash which should be some of the most resistant mobs in the game outside of having an elemental affinity or being completely immune.

It's just wrong and the people doing it are defending their pixel gains. Period. Same as the previous issues with charming Sirran.

[Daldaen]

Provide logs and shit then Nirgon.

I provided mine, and 60 charming is working fine. If you think 50's are messed up provide a 2-3 hour clear of charming as a level 50 and how messed up that is.

And no. Planar trash should not be more resistant than basement Sebilis mobs or basically any mobs 55+.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind we didn't see charming like this during live until dire charm became prevalent.

It is WAY too reliable and ez mode here, like almost to the point every charm is a dire charm. Coupled with nearly guaranteed channeling in my experience, its just a little too WAY OP (and not classic btw, get yo game face on -> sig).

Not true at all. People were charming during the game's beta.

Shit, Necromancers had the same charm line as Enchanters and it got taken out before game went live.

[Nirgon]

They had the enchanter charm line yes, I'm well aware at that time.

However, the shiverback charming I witnessed is just wrong and fucked up period.

[Daldaen]

THEN POST LOGS.

This is ClassicQuest, not rocket science. You think its wrong, stop complaining and post evidence. It is NOT that hard.

You've been going on and on about how easymode charms are here. Prove it and make the box more classic. Your memories aren't worth anything in these boards, only evidence.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove it and make the box more classic.

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[Haynar]

Blah blah blah. I already know changes coming for charm.

Lets argue about root.

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[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already know changes coming for charm.

Love dis guy.

Resta ya'll keep twistin'.